HomeMy WebLinkAboutRegular Commission Meeting December 3, 2013
REGULAR MEETING COMMISSION CHAMBER
DECEMBER 3, 2013
Augusta Richmond County Commission convened at 2:00 p.m., December 3, 2013, the
Hon. Deke Copenhaver, Mayor, presiding.
PRESENT: Hons. Lockett, Guilfoyle, Mason, D. Smith, Williams, Johnson, Jackson,
Davis and G. Smith, members of Augusta Richmond County Commission.
Absent: Hon. Fennoy, member of Augusta Richmond County Commission.
Mr. Mayor: --- is still here I’d like to call the Pastor of Advent Lutheran Church I’d like
to call on him for the invocation. And Reverend Peterson, thank you for waiting patiently. And
we ask for your soothing prayers to open the meeting. Please stand.
The invocation was given by the Rev. Jason Peterson, Pastor, Advent Lutheran Church.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America was recited.
Mr. Mayor: And, Pastor, if you could come forward please. Thank you for that
invocation and have a little something for you. By these present be it known that Reverend, oh
that’s the wrong. Nancy, do you have, excuse me. Okay restart. By these present be it known
that Reverend Jason Peterson, Pastor, Advent Lutheran Church is Chaplain of the Day for his
civic and spiritual guidance demonstrated throughout the community, serves as an example for
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all of the faith community. Given under my hand this 3 Day of December 2013. Deke
Copenhaver, Mayor. (APPLAUSE)
Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, let’s roll on to the delegations.
The Clerk:
DELEGATIONS
A. Mr. Brad Owens regarding the proposed 2014 ARC Budget.
Mr. Mayor: And if you could keep it to five minutes but I believe you know the drill, my
friend.
Mr. Owens: Right, thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, for having me today. What I
wanted to speak about I don’t know if the budget’s been passed or not Commissioner Williams
but I’d like to speak my piece about the budget that’s being proposed. I came to a few of the
workshops and I was just a little bit disturbed about the fact that there seemed to be some cutting
going on in some places like mosquito control which seemed to actually to do work here in the
county that we need. And other areas that I think could probably be trimmed such as the
Downtown Development Authority’s budget which is left untouched except by the small
percentage it’s going to be across the board. And as many of you may or may not know I served
on the Downtown Development Authority. I’m a current member of the Downtown Advisory
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Panel. I have an office on Broad Street in the Doris Building and I’ve been a downtown
advocate for a number of years. When I was on the DDA I fought to get the DDA’s budget
reduced. As a matter of fact I just kind of want to run down you know comparing when I saw
mosquito control on the cut list I decided that I might want to rise and say a few words about the
DDA and some of their greatest hits. Let’s talk about a Trolley Study that cost $40,000 dollars.
As a matter of fact board members traveled to Missouri to study a trolley. I could’ve told you
that was a really stupid idea from the get-go and a bad idea. Nobody lays track in this day and
age and now there’s buses that run back and forth between MCG and downtown. That’s $40,000
dollars that they spent on the study not including the travel and everything else that the board
members (inaudible). Let’s talk about a $65,000 dollar parking study that took place. And board
members Sanford Lloyd stood right here in this room and I was in this room when he said this
study will not sit on the shelf and gather dust. Well, I’ll give you two guesses where it sits and
what it’s been doing and the first one doesn’t count. It’s been on the shelf. None of it’s been
implemented and that’s another 65K down the drain. Now let’s talk about the clock the
wonderful reproduction clock which quite ironically replaced the original clock. It was sent to
the Augusta Mall which the mall’s one of the reasons that we were even in a meeting to bring
people back downtown. But that cost us about $45,000 dollars not including the bricks and
everything else that had to be prepped. So you can say after the place was set and all the other
work was done about $80,000 dollars was spent on that clock. And it had four sides and no two
of the four sides had the time on it the entire time it was downtown. Now we were told it was
unfixable but guess where it is right now? It’s in the Augusta Airport and it keeps perfect time
on all four sides. So there’s another $80,000 dollars down the drain. And nobody talked to us
downtown about whether to move the clock or not or what to do with it. That brings me to the
current study that’s being done a retail study for $60,000 dollars of our tax money which is being
spent to try to tell us how to get retail business back downtown. And not to add insult to injury
we have a nationally recognized firm which does this type of work of Allison and Associates
right downtown. And this money’s being sent out of town to some no name consultant firm that
nobody’s ever heard of. But it’s not staying in downtown it’s not being spent downtown. I don’t
think we need a $60,000 dollar study. I think we need safety and security is what we need. We
need people coming downtown spending money. Let’s go down the bright idea fairy list.
There’s TAD, URA’s OZ’s, EEZEE’s every type of bright idea comes along is supposed to help
us most of which only cost us tax money and doesn’t really put much back into the
(unintelligible) the TAD1 is a prime example of the complete failure with you know over
promise and under delivered. And I’m pretty sure there was some consultant’s paid along with
legal fees to help TAD 1 be written. You know COSTCO let’s look at COSTCO if you want to.
You know we bought the land and gave it to them. We’re even paying the interest on their
construction loan and we give them a tax holiday for how many years? So what I would like to
say is before you consider it and I don’t know if you’re going to raise our taxes or not, I don’t
know what’s going to happen but I can give you some examples of more DDA problems if you
turn your chairs around and look at sidewalk in front of DeLaigle House. That was a $60,000
dollar grant that went to the chairman of the current, the chairman of the DDA at the time was
Paul King who had bought the property from the city, sold it to Jan Hodges had the construction
contract to rebuild it and lease it out. And the chairman of the DDA got them a $50,000 grant to
go in front of her building. Now all of this stuff happens right in our plain, right in plain sight
right in our faces. So when I see things like mosquito control, anyone who’s lived here for the
past two summers and said we don’t need to expand mosquito control doesn’t really live here.
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And they do good work. So anyone, before we consider raising taxes and cutting agency’s we
need could we please look and stop rewarding failure like at the DDA. You guys have to be
good stewards of our money. When you appoint us to boards and authorities we should be good
stewards too. And anyone that can look down at that list they’ve received over $2 million dollars
out of general fund since (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, Mr. Owens, the five minutes is up but we appreciate your
time. Okay, Madam Clerk, next delegation.
The Clerk:
DELEGATIONS
B. Ms. Lori Davis regarding TAD4.
Mr. Mayor: And if you could keep it to five minutes as well. And you know the drill.
Ms. Davis: Commissioners, the efforts to remove downtown from the failed Tax
Allocation District 1 and create a new Tax Allocation District 4 seems to be, needs to be
compounding the damage already done by the previous mistakes made by our city’s
administration. When the map for the new TAD4 was presented this time last year you were not
told that TAD1 from which it was extracted had failed. TAD1 took up nearly all of the
maximum allotted 10% of the taxable tracts in the city digest. You were also not told that
recreating a new downtown TAD4 would reset the designated valuation base to current values
which would produce positive tax increments thus bailing out TAD1. My biggest fear about this
595 acre TAD4 is confirmed in a report from Georgia State University which states oversized
TAD’s unnecessarily deprive all participating jurisdictions of the incremental tax revenues
needed to support general government services. My first recommendation is to scale TAD4 back
to an area befitting of an actual project like the Holiday Inn Express just as was done in the
URA. If you tie up 595 acres all to the first few projects you will more than likely drain future
revenues from critical services. You have made a good decision to hold off on a resolution that
would create TAD4 until there can be public meetings with adequate notice. The Augusta
Collaboration Project’s Matt Kwatinetz voiced his support for government transparency and is
also required by the Redevelopment Powers Law. After personally witnessing the controversies
associated with the Laney Walker overlay I would encourage you to make it a city ordinance to
require that those who are affected are given two weeks advanced notice of any action that might
affect their property rights. The plan that you have in your possession today says TAD’s offer a
flexible alternative to financing economic development without the need to use General Funds,
Local Option Sales Taxes or SPLOST revenues to raise taxes. After TAD1 failed to produce tax
increments it was amended to include Local Option Sales Taxes. My third recommendation is to
delete any reference to the use of lost funds from the TAD Resolution. It is no secret that many
people in Augusta Richmond County chose to do their shopping in South Carolina where the
sales tax is 6%, me included. I now come to personal conflict that has kept me focused all these
years, my Harrisburg neighborhood. The GSU report warns that the TAD’s might force
moderate to low income families out of a neighborhood. Where my properties continue to rise
business development would be exempt from taxation. The law prohibits the millage rate from
going down in a TAD. In a recent meeting held in the Harrisburg neighborhood Mr. Kwatinetz
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agreed that the way things stand in Harrisburg at this point a developer could buy the required
10% of an area then commission an overlay then use TAD financing to build his infrastructure
all while being exempt under the Opportunity Zone which awards tax credits as well resulting in
tax increases to 90% of folks in the district and the county. This leads me to my final
recommendation that TAD funds not be used on properties that are exempt from property
taxation. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Ms. Davis. Madam Clerk, the next delegation.
The Clerk:
DELEGATIONS
C. Robin Schweitzer, regarding Special Tax Districts.
Ms. Schweitzer: I’m going to withdraw. And after speaking with Mr. Plunkett I’m going
to revise what I have and email it to everyone.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, ma’am. Madam Clerk, on to the consent agenda please.
The Clerk: Yes, sir. Our consent agenda consists of items 1-26. And under the Public
Services portion of the agenda I’ll read the alcohol applications and if anyone has an objection
would you please signify your objection by raising your hand.
Item 1: Is a request for a retail package Beer & Wine license to be used in connection
with Super Express #5 located at 3341 Deans Bridge Road.
Item 2: Is a request for a retail package Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in
connection with Salem Wine & Spirits located at 2228 Rosier Road.
The Clerk: Are there any objectors to either of these petitions? I don’t believe we have
any objectors, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, Madam Clerk. Lady and gentlemen, do we have any
additions to the consent agenda? Commissioner Lockett.
Mr. Lockett: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’d like to add agenda item 31 and 32 to the
consent agenda please.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Guilfoyle.
Mr. Guilfoyle: Item number 27, sir.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have, do we have items to be pulled for discussion?
Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Jackson: Mr. Mayor, I believe I might want to pull item 14 and then correspond with
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Mr. Mayor: Fourteen and sixteen? Okay, do we have any further items to be pulled for
discussion? Commissioner Williams, did you?
Mr. Williams: Mr. Jackson pulled 14 and 16 which I was looking at as well. I appreciate
that. We can discuss item 24. Just need to get some clarification I guess as to what we’re doing,
afford $23,700.00 for a temporary driveway easement. I think is my question on 24.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have somebody that could, Mr. Ladson or somebody from
Engineering that could? Okay.
Mr. Williamson: Jim Williamson, Land Acquisition Manager of the Engineering
Department. And I have that one here and I’ll explain it to you. The amount that’s on here is the
appraised amount, appraised and reviewed. And the amount $23,700 is what was recommended
they be paid for we’re (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams, is that?
Mr. Williams: No, I see that, Jim, thank you. I see $23,700 here but I’m asking why I
guess for a temporary easement are we paying $23,700 for a temporary easement and temporary
means that you’re not going to keep it long. I mean temporary’s ---
Mr. Williamson: It’s for construction and revert it back to the property the way it was
before. That maybe be, the information you have there may not be correct because there’s 0.175
acres, 7,621 square feet of feet that was appraised to offer them. And also 2,678 of temporary
construction easement and that construction easement is figured at a lot less percentage than that.
In fact it’s figured about 10% and then for a year’s use is what that’s calculated at. I don’t those
appraisal figures with me but it’s a lot less than what the fee simple appraisal is.
Mr. Williams: Okay, you’re saying it’s a lot less, Jim, than the appraisal was ---
Mr. Williamson: Yeah, the fee simple part would constitute just about 90/95% of that.
The balance of that would be for the temporary easement.
Mr. Mayor: Are you finished, Commissioner?
Mr. Williams: Yeah, I mean I don’t know no more (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: Donnie?
Mr. D. Smith: Mr. Williamson, maybe we can get this square. We’re buying a part of
this is what you’re telling me?
Mr. Williamson: You’re actually buying part of the property.
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Mr. D. Smith: And $22,000 dollars of that is going to be, we’re buying a piece of
property for us for our permanent use. The other thousand dollars is for temporary easement. So
we’re going to own this piece of property.
Mr. Williamson: Yes (inaudible).
Mr. D. Smith: And it was appraised ---
Mr. Williamson: --- for the temporary part and to revert it back (inaudible).
Mr. D. Smith: Okay, so that’s what we’re trying to get clear here is 1.76 of the acreage is
actually going to be our property that we own forever and ever and it has an appraised value of
$23,000 and the $1,000 dollars was for the temporary easement.
Mr. Williamson: I don’t know the exact (inaudible)---
Mr. D. Smith: But that’s some kind of breakdown.
Mr. Williamson: --- (inaudible).
Mr. D. Smith: Thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams, you good?
Mr. Williams: Yeah, I’m good, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, then I’d look for a motion to approve the consent agenda?
Mr. Jackson: So moved.
Mr. Johnson: Second.
CONSENT AGENDA
PUBLIC SERVICES
1. Motion to approve New Application: A.N. 13-31: request by Ritaben Patel for a retail
package Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Super Express #5 located at
3341 Deans Bridge Rd. District 5. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services
Committee November 25, 2013)
2. Motion to approve New Ownership Application: 13-32: request by Hwa Young Song for
a retail package Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Salem Wine &
Spirits located at 2228 Rosier Rd. District 6. Super District 10. (Approved by Public
Services Committee November 25, 2013)
3. Motion to approve the contract between Augusta Regional Airport and Events 20/20
LLC for Inflight Catering as approved by the Augusta Aviation Commission at their
October 31, 2013 meeting. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 25, 2013)
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4. Motion to approve the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Augusta
Regional Airport and McDuffie County as approved by the Augusta Aviation Commission
at their October 31, 2013 meeting. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 25,
2013)
5. Motion to approve the selection of Cincinnati Systems for the purchase of equipment for
the new credit card and existing long term parking lots located at the airport as approved
by the Augusta Aviation Commission at their October 31, 2013 meeting. (Approved by
Public Services Committee November 25, 2013)
6. Motion to approve submitting the Police Simulator/Software to Procurement for
purchasing using the GSA Contract as approved by the Augusta Aviation Commission at
their October 31, 2013 Meeting. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 25,
2013)
7. Motion to approve the Republic Parking Systems Management Contract for the public
parking program for Augusta Regional Airport as approved by the Augusta Aviation
Commission at their October 31, 2013 Meeting. (Approved by Public Services Committee
November 25, 2013)
8. Motion to approve tasking the Administrator to come back with a final report relative
to a plan of action regarding the establishment of a bus route to Fort Gordon at the first
committee meeting in January. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 25,
2013)
PUBLIC SAFETY
9. Motion to approve award of bid #13-187A Emergency Response Vehicles for the
Augusta Fire Department to NAFECO/ME. (Approved by Public Safety Committee
November 25, 2013)
10. Motion to approve digital orthophotography and maintenance agreement with
Pictometry International to provide new 2013/2014 oblique imagery and related software
and product support to Augusta with the addition that the Administrator charge the
enterprises funds with the proportion of their use of the service and meet with the School
Board regarding their participation in the cost of services. (Approved by Public Safety
Committee November 25, 2013)
11. Motion to approve a resolution authorizing volunteer firefighters and rescue workers of
the Augusta, Georgia Fire Department to be covered under Worker’s Compensation.
(Approved by Public Safety Committee November 25, 2013)
12. Motion to approve automatic aid agreement with Hephzibah, Georgia. (Approved by
Public Safety Committee November 25, 2013)
FINANCE
13. Motion to approve a request from the Sheriff’s Office to replace 2 police motorcycles
for their Road Patrol – Traffic Division. (Approved by Finance Committee November 25,
2013)
15. Motion to approve accepting the funds from the sponsors and increasing the funding
level of the budget by that amount and expend funds to hold the event relative to the
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Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Department’s 6 Annual Business Expo. (Approved by
Finance Committee November 25, 2013)
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ENGINEERING SERVICES
17. Motion to approve a cost sharing agreement between the Augusta Utilities Department
and James Stafford, Bernard Dunstan, and Allen Grinalds. (Approved by Engineering
Services Committee November 25, 2013)
18. Motion to authorize condemnation to acquire title of a portion of property for fee
simple and permanent construction and maintenance easement (Parcel 227-0-038-00-0)
4763 Windsor Spring Road. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee November 25,
2013)
19. Motion to authorize condemnation to acquire title of a portion of property for fee
simple and permanent construction and maintenance easement (Parcel 227-0-040-00-0)
4733 Windsor Spring Road. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee November 25,
2013)
20. Motion to authorize condemnation to acquire title of a portion of property for fee
simple and permanent construction and maintenance easement (Parcel 227-0-094-00-0)
4359 Windsor Spring Road. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee November 25,
2013)
21. Motion to authorize condemnation to acquire title of the entire parcel, (Parcel 087-4-
111-00-0) 2056 Golden Rod Street. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee
November 25, 2013)
22. Motion to approve subject agreement to Johnson, Laschober, and Associates, P.C. in
the amount of $45,540.00. This award will include costs associated with plan updates and
permit updates, as well as for costs associated with the bidding and construction services
phases of the project. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee November 25, 2013)
23. Motion to approve awarding of Utilities Bid #13-178 to Badger Meter. (Approved by
Engineering Services Committee November 25, 2013)
24. Motion to approve an Option for Right of Way between Teresa P. Tedder and Jana S.
Pine and Augusta, Georgia for an easement consisting of 0.175 acre (7,621.09 sq. ft.) in fee,
more or less, and no permanent easement, and 2,678.18 sq. ft. of temporary construction
easement, more or less, and one temporary driveway easement located at 1263-A Marks
Church Road for a total price of $23,700.00. (Approved by Engineering Services
Committee November 25, 2013)
25. Motion to approve and accept the Deed of Dedication and Maintenance Agreement for
The Enclave and The Station. (Approve by Engineering Services Committee November 25,
2013)
PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
26. Motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of the Commission held
November 19, 2013 and Special Called Meeting held November 25, 2013.
PUBLIC SERVICES
27. Motion to approve New Ownership Application: A.N. 13-33: request by Dhaval G.
Desai for a retail package Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with KRISHNA
KUNJ, LLC located at 3671 Peach Orchard Rd. District 6. Super District 10. (No
recommendation from Public Services Committee November 25, 2013)
APPOINTMENTS
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31. Consider the recommendation from the Medical Society to reappoint Dr. Adair
Blackwood for a four-year term on the Richmond County Board of Health due to
expiration of current term 12/31/13.
32. Consider the recommendation of the Board of Health to appoint Kenneth Echols to a
four-year term to replace Jill Hauenstein due to expiration of term ending 12/31/13.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion that’s been made and properly seconded. Commissioners
will now vote by the usual sign.
Motion Passes 9-0. [Items 1-13, 15, 17-26, 27, 31, 32]
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, ma’am. Madam Clerk, let’s go to the first pulled agenda item.
The Clerk:
FINANCE
14. Motion to authorize the conducting of a public hearing regarding the adoption of the
Amended Augusta Richmond County Redevelopment Plan for TAD Number One and to
receive such plan and a proposed resolution approving the Plan. (Approved by Finance
Committee November 25, 2013)
16. Motion to authorize the conducting of a public hearing regarding the adoption of the
Augusta Richmond County Downtown Redevelopment Plan for TAD4 and the creation of
the Downtown TAD and to receive such plan and a proposed resolution to approve the
Plan and create the district. (Approved by Finance Committee November 25, 2013)
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Jackson, this was your pull.
Mr. Jackson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Plunkett, I know that 14 what was it, 14 and
16 kind of coincide. Is there a way that we could do away with the TAD1? And then the TAD 4
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shrinking the scope down because we’ve already promised for the 15 Street corridor and the
Holiday Inn Express at the end instead of encompassing all those five hundred and some odd
acres for right now?
Mr. Plunkett: Yes, sir, you could. Really this agenda item is whether or not for the
public hearing and if at that time that would be part of the debate that you certainly can reduce
the size of the plan and take care of that.
Mr. Jackson: I guess parlaying into that is and I’m not sure if a motion could be made to
have you come back at the public hearing with the reduced amount. Does that make sense?
Mr. Plunkett: Yes, sir, the problem is the public hearing needs to held after this meeting.
Mr. Jackson: Right.
Mr. Plunkett: So what would probably happen is if the body elected not to do the current
proposed parameters then what you would do is simply come up with a motion that said this is
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the area that we want to adopt the plan for. So you wouldn’t have to do anything additional
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coming back we would just accept that. And then at the following meeting on the 17 you
would vote to approve that revised plan.
Mr. Jackson: Okay.
Mr. Plunkett: But this is really to have the public hearing after that (inaudible).
Mr. Jackson: Okay, well, I wasn’t sure if I wasn’t trying to put the cart before the horse
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but to I guess streamline us to get us to the 17 knowing what we want to do and reduce.
Mr. Plunkett: You certainly can reduce the size of it if that’s the will of the body. You
can terminate TAD1 as well if you wish to that.
Mr. Jackson: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mayor Pro Tem.
Mr. Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Jim, before you leave the TAD1 at what point
would it be appropriate to go ahead and work on doing away with that? Could we do it in
conjunction with the reduction in the TAD4 or would it be appropriate to do it after everything
has been I guess the fees have been paid and everybody’s been.
Mr. Plunkett: Everybody’s been, there are no reimbursements outstanding ---
Mr. Johnson: Okay.
Mr. Plunkett: --- at one. Procedurally I would have to get with Mr. MacKenzie to make
sure that they’ve gone through the proper committee issues there. But arguably you could
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terminate TAD1 December 17 as well.
Mr. Johnson: Okay, good deal. That’s what I wanted to find.
Mr. Plunkett: I would think so. If not it may have to go to the next committee to go to
but it’s a very simple step to terminate it.
Mr. Johnson: Okay good deal. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams then Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Jim, can you explain to me how if there was a
tax increase if we raise taxes how would that affect how would that do as far as the TAD’s
concerned as far as monies coming back to this government or going to what. Can you explain?
Mr. Plunkett: Mr. Williams, I’m not sure if that’s the issue that Ms. Davis referenced
about not ability to change tax rates. Just as to that extent she was incorrect that law has been
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amended in 2009. So you can adjust rates within a TAD. That’s not a prohibition as that was
stated. What would happen is you set a base value. And for our purposes let’s just say $100
million dollars is downtown. Any growth that’s above that 100 million dollars to the ad valorem
property taxes to that amount would go into a special fund to reimburse redevelopment projects
in downtown or whatever that parameter was. That can be project specific for instance the
Holiday Inn Express. It could be for sidewalks or you could so to speak store it for other projects
that may come up down the road. Personally I would suggest reducing people’s reimbursements
as quick as possible but you have that flexibility. It’s set a base and everything above the base
the ad valorem property taxes from that into a special fund.
Mr. Williams: Okay and to follow up to help me get clear on this is that if we did raise
taxes in that TAD4 was implemented then that area that’s included in that TAD4 the tax that we
raise would not benefit the government at that point it’d be going toward that area where it
would be 500 acres like I think Ms. Davis said 500 acres or ten acres or whatever it is. But if
there was a tax increase if we happen if we do that then that money would go not back to this
government. We’ll raise taxes but it wouldn’t go back to government it goes towards the TAD.
Is that right?
Mr. Plunkett: The taxes on the growth would go to the special fund. Let’s say you went
from, again $100 million dollars is your base. If your growth was $10 million dollars regardless
of whatever the mill rate was on the $100 million dollars goes to the general fund. It is the mill
rate as to the $10 million dollars of growth that goes to the special fund. So you’re not specially
taxing that area. The property owner would pay 100% of the property taxes and then the monies
would be split special fund and general fund.
Mr. Williams: Split into what rate when you say split? Fifty/fifty or?
Mr. Plunkett: --- base (inaudible)
Mr. Williams: So if it was 100 ---
Mr. Plunkett: (inaudible) the fund the amount is triple to the growth would go to the
special fund.
Mr. Williams: Okay, give me some numbers. Now you give me $100 million dollars for
(unintelligible) keep it simple Steve.
Mr. Plunkett: $100 million dollars is your base.
Mr. Williams: Okay.
Mr. Plunkett: And then ---
Mr. Williams: You’re raising taxes ---
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Mr. Plunkett: --- growth is $10 million dollars so now the value of the property is worth
$110 million dollars. The taxes attributed to the $100 million dollars whatever that number is
goes to the general fund. So if you doubled your property taxes double the income to the general
fund. The mill rate as to the $10 million dollars goes to the special fund. So whatever you
increase that it’s the whole properties being increased it’s not just the special fund that’s being
taxed or the increments.
Mr. Williams: I’m, one more minute, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Mayor: You’ve got some more time.
Mr. Williams: I’m just trying to get clear, Jim, because you’re not going to double the
taxes you know you’re not going to double the taxes. Now you gave me some numbers and I
was feeling you but now you done ---
Mr. Plunkett: All right, if we went from a mill rate of 16 to 17 ---
Mr. Williams: Okay.
Mr. Plunkett: --- okay that one mill increase wouldn’t be applied to both the special fund
and the general fund. So $100 million dollars times the mill rate is what goes in special fund.
Ten million times the mill rate goes to the special fund. Okay? So whatever that one mill
increase is because we raised the taxes in our example one mill would go to the general fund.
And the one mill increase as to that ten million would go to the special fund.
Mr. Williams: And I was in support when we talked about the TAD and I asked you why
did the TAD, the first TAD, you know, not be successful? Why did it fail. And I think you
replied, well, it was so big you know so big so Ms. Davis I guess was right in her comments
about reducing the size down. But until I did some research I didn’t realize that those areas
that’s incorporated would be affected like you just said with whatever the mill rate would be and
what would go to the general fund and what would not ---
Mr. Mayor: I’ll give you another two.
Mr. Williams: --- not go to the general fund. No, thank you, Mr. Mayor, I’m clear. Mr.
Jackson pulled it and I’m glad he did. I just wanted to ask those questions and Jim helped me
out a lot. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Commissioner Williams. Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Jackson: Move to approve.
Mr. Mayor: Do we have a second?
Mr. Johnson: Second.
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Mr. Mayor: This is just item 14 or 14 and 16.
Mr. Jackson: If I can add 14 and the 16 ---
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
Mr. Jackson: --- that’s kosher.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we have a motion to approve agenda items 14 and 16. Commissioner
Lockett.
Mr. Lockett: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is for Mr. Plunkett. The conversation
came up about getting rid of TAD1. And I believe you indicated that there was no problem in
getting rid of TAD1. If we’re going to get rid of it, why is there a need to amend it? Why not
dissolve it?
Mr. Plunkett: Well, sir, the direction from the Commission for last year was to create a
TAD4. TAD4 was a subpart of the existing TAD1. So in order to create TAD4 we had to take
those parcels out of one and create a new TAD. So if we were to dissolve TAD1 then those
parcels that would be in TAD4 would be available to create a new TAD. We were just having to
carve out part of it to create the new TAD.
Mr. Lockett: To what extent had TAD1 failed?
Mr. Plunkett: I want to say, sir, that it’s approximately negative $22 million dollars in
growth.
Mr. Lockett: Negative $22 million.
Mr. Plunkett: Yes, sir, since ’09 to 2013.
Mr. Lockett: And by amending this, this TAD1 is going to become a part of TAD4?
Mr. Plunkett: Just the parcels that you accept.
Mr. Lockett: Okay, I’m interested in the part that caused us to have a negative $22
million dollars.
Mr. Plunkett: The downtown area was approximately $12 million dollars in negative
growth so both of them but you would be setting the downtown at 2013 value so that’s stabilizes
the number in growth above that number is what goes to the special fund.
Mr. Lockett: Well, lastly a precedent has definitely been established within this state. I
believe Marietta and a couple of other counties around the Atlanta area had TAD’s that were
significant failures and they didn’t amend those they dissolved them, they got rid of them. So
why are we different?
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Mr. Plunkett: Three things on that, Mr. Lockett, if I could. Some TAD’s are basically
under water and they’re being reestablished. DeKalb I believe is redoing five of their TAD’s this
way. Second is last week when we had this conversation I suggested that I’m in favor of
eliminating TAD1 but my direction was to carve out TAD 4 out of one. So I was following
instructions from last year. My preference and I think it’s more prudent that it would be to
eliminate TAD1 and create a new TAD4 and so that you’d only have two three and four.
Mr. Lockett: Thank you, I definitely support your preference. Thank you, Mr. Plunkett.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we have a motion that’s been made and properly seconded.
Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign.
Mr. Johnson, Ms. Davis, Mr. Jackson, Mr. D. Smith, Mr. Williams and Mr. G. Smith vote
Yes.
Mr. Lockett votes No.
Mr. Mason and Mr. Guilfoyle out.
Motion Passes 6-1.
Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, on to the regular agenda, please, ma’am.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
28. Presentation from the consultant regarding the 2013 Fair Housing Analysis on behalf of
Augusta, GA. (Requested by Commissioner Bill Fennoy)
Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mayor Pro Tem.
Mr. Johnson: Mr. Mayor, would it be appropriate to send this item back? I know
Commissioner Fennoy’s not here and I’d hate for Mr. Wheeler to have to come back again I did
not know he was going to be out. But of course if he’s not going to be able to adequately address
his concerns he’s going to be asked to come back because he’s not here so.
Mr. Mayor: Are you okay with that, Mr. Wheeler.
Mr. Wheeler: Well, Mr. Commissioner, Fennoy only asked that we bring this to you,
well, two things that requires no formal action on your part today. It’s for information only. He
asked that we share this in the formal commission meeting rather than just in the committee
meeting. That’s why we’re bringing it before you today.
Mr. Johnson: Okay.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, but he’s aware of what you’re going to present anyway. Okay, well
then, please go ahead.
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Mr. Wheeler: Okay. The Federal Government requires the City of Augusta every five
years to prepare an analysis of its Fair Housing Policies and Practices. Today I have Mr. Robert
Gaudin with Western Economic Services who is our consultant who prepared this year’s
analysis. He’s here to present information. It must go out for public comment and it will come
back to you for final approval within the next thirty-four to five days.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you and if you could state your name and address for the record. It’s
part of the procedure.
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Mr. Gaudin: My name is Robert Gaudin 212 S.E. 18 Portland Oregon. Again my firm
is Western Economic Services. As Mr. Wheeler indicated this is a requirement of entitlement
communities who receive funding from HUD. And there is a form by which you must do this or
a process by which you must do this. It’s an analysis impediment. And impediment or actions
omissions or decisions which restrict housing choice due to protected class status. For federal
and state law that, those classes are race, color, religion, familial status, natural origin, gender
and disability. Really HUD really wants you to separate these kinds of impediments into two
buckets private sector and public sector. Things in a sense that we have a little bit more
difficulty with administrating to or influencing in the private sector and those things that we have
a more ability to influence. Those are the public sector. Then I will come quickly to my
conclusion without taking too much of your time. Private sector issues. Discriminatory terms
and conditions in the rental markets. Failure to make reasonable modification for our disabled.
Proportionally higher denial rates when predatory style loan for blacks, proportionally fewer
racial minorities seen in the lending industry and some redlining extremes seems to occur in the
real estate industry. Essentially that steering is to send people away from Augusta. Now the
kinds of things that the city and county can do with this really amounts to outreach education to
both consumers who are in the private sector, housing transactions as well as the providers
whether that’s realtors or bankers or money lenders and mortgage entities. On the other hand
those things in the public sector are things you can consider. The kinds of things that we have
been able to identify fundamentally the lack of better housing infrastructure. There’s really
nowhere for anyone to turn. If they need guidance on an issue they need to file a complaint.
You can go to HUD in Atlanta but really there’s no one here to actually walk them through. You
know there is a lack of sufficient fair housing outreach and education. People don’t know, they
don’t understand, they don’t know where to go don’t know what they’re rights and obligations
are. Both consumers and providers. Lack of fair housing coordinates or a policy statement this
again is something that’s up to you. It might be great if you just have a policy statement. You
don’t need to be the arm of the law but provide your support. Part of your requirements under
the entitlement money you get from HUD is to affirmatively further fair housing. There is also a
somewhat slight lack of knowledge of this analysis, impediments as well as some fair housing
items that have been taken over the last few years. Some of the things I want you to do as you as
a city is to take a little bit more action and make those things more publicly well known. Lastly
lack of sufficient visibility for new home construction. That is in deference to our disabled
residents as well as our rapidly growing senior population making homes more visible so that
they can actually get in, maybe the doors a little wider and things like that. Now the kinds of
things that the city can consider you know none of these are going to impact the general fund
budget, okay. The idea is maybe take a look at who currently provides fair housing services
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whether it’s in Atlanta or you know in South Carolina and talk with someone about coming here,
explore some educational program with them. Enhance kind of educations so that people
understand about buying a house. What are the attributes of a predatory style loan, how do you
get good credit, how do you keep good credit. As well locate copies of, I understand there has
been some previous work about an ordinance or something in support of affirmatively furthering
fair housing. Kind of reawaken that old narrative rework it to something more contemporary and
then the city would like to bring it to you for consideration. But as well as promoting the
analysis of impediments and its Fair Housing Action Plan for this coming April. April is Fair
Housing Month. Do some outreach and education and so on. And lastly the other item, conduct
research on the notion of visibility and what that might mean for you. There’s some steps you
can take. These are not resource intense. As Mr. Wheeler indicated the document is currently in
internal review in the department and in a couple of weeks it will be available for public review
and then we’ll close it out probably early in January. I’d be happy to answer any questions.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, sir. And I just have a comment and then I’ll turn it. I think
anything we can do as a city to support Fair Housing is a good thing. With regards to the
outreach I think a good example of that I’m very fortunate to serve of the Community
Foundation of the Central Savannah River Area. Last night we had our board meeting in
Heritage Pines in a model home. Many of the board members had never been to our flagship
development in Laney Walker/Bethlehem. And we shared with them that we need advocates to
let people know about these good housing options in our inner city. And with regards to this it’s
an award winning development so we continually work on the outreach. And so I just want to
applaud the efforts of Mr. Wheeler and Housing and Neighborhood Development. I know we
can do better. But I just want to thank you guys for making the presentation today.
Commissioner Williams.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Fennoy is not here but I will talk with him
and tell him I appreciate his effort in having this put on the agenda. You know when we think
about fair housing and affordable homes and the money we get through the federal government it
comes down especially for those people who can’t speak for themselves or don’t have the
necessary means to get into those places and we ought to continue to look at. I just need to know
what can we do as a body to help Housing and Neighborhood Development to make sure that
those training that you talked about, the education that people complain about that we need to
educate people so when people know better they’ll do better. And we just, as a Commissioner
I’d like to know what can we do as a body to help Housing and Neighborhood Development to
continue this and not just hear this presentation and then put it on the shelf somewhere. I think
this is something I’ve been advocating for, for a long time. A lot of people don’t have the know-
it-all to know how to get to certain doors and how to maneuver through the system to get to
where they need to be. And when they’re turned away easily turned away then they turn around
and forget about it and walk off. Then they’re left out there to fend for themselves. So is there
anything we can do either this young man here or Mr. Wheeler or someone from his department.
What can we do as a body? You said there wasn’t going to be no financial impact today but
what’s in place or what can we do, Mr. Mayor, to help this process continue? There’s a lot of
people that’s in need.
Mr. Mayor: Mr. Wheeler.
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Mr. Wheeler: Mr. Mayor, I think a couple of things. One, we don’t have a provider in
Augusta who addresses these kinds of situations. I think we need to reach out to some other city
that has an office that addresses these issues particularly maybe Atlanta so we can develop a
relationship with an organization that’s out of Atlanta that’s specializes in this so that that they
can help us address issues that are public related and not going to the private. I think my office
also needs to probably heighten it’s roles we play. We do run ads and we do billboards and some
of those things and we probably need to reach out and develop something within our office that
we can begin to educate to the degree that we can because we don’t want to create new vehicle
that we don’t deal with everyday. But I think we can do something to that nature to address
these concerns.
Mr. Williams: And my last question if I can to Mr. Wheeler is there a third dollar that
comes in that can be set aside for this rather than turn that out of a budget? Is there federal
money because we do get federal monies for some things that we’re doing in Housing and
Neighborhood Development? Can we carve out something and maybe it’s not needed but I don’t
you can get nobody to come in and volunteer to work and don’t get no pay because a volunteer
might show up and he might not show up that’s why they call it a volunteer. But a paid person
will be there because they want to receive the pay and that’s ---
Mr. Mayor: I’ll give you two more.
Mr. Wheeler: And the answer’s yes but of course it’s going to take something away from
somewhere else but the answer’s yes.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Commissioner Williams. Commissioner Smith, did you?
Mr. D. Smith: No, sir.
Mr. Mayor: You’re good?
Mr. D. Smith: Yes, sir.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, well, thank you, gentlemen. Can I get a motion to receive this as
information?
Mr. Williams: So moved.
Mr. Johnson: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion that’s been properly seconded. Commissioners will now
vote by the usual sign.
Mr. Johnson, Ms. Davis, Mr. Lockett, Mr. Jackson, Mr. D. Smith, Mr. Williams and Mr.
G. Smith vote Yes.
Mr. Mason and Mr. Guilfoyle out.
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Motion Passes 7-0.
Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, next agenda item please.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
29. Discuss parliamentary rulings by the parliamentarian. (Requested by Commissioner
Marion Williams)
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I talk about having a law degree and ya’ll know
can’t pass the law office but let’s (unintelligible). But I’ve been really concerned about some of
the rulings and such as the one we just made a little while ago. We tried to make that vote
without adding those that revision there and then making a vote and adding it later. We had a
situation here last meeting I think it was when Commissioner Mason and myself we kind of
questioned that when somebody had a motion and the motion was pulled back. And then the
parliamentarian told us and instructed us that the motion, we needed a substitute motion. And I
disagreed because there wasn’t a primary motion. So that prompted me to want to know how
and we talked about training. Now we got all this from training. But the vote today and the one
that we did previous before I questioned several times about the parliamentarian giving us those
information. And we need to depend on we need to know what he’s telling us is right. I don’t
need to assume that I’m getting the right information and not getting it. I need to make sure that
the information that he gives us not just here but in the legal room as well that we’re getting the
right information. And that had not happened. It didn’t happen today nobody said anything
nobody questioned that. We took votes up here on this dais. I don’t make lawyer’s salary. I
don’t even get the travel expense. I don’t get any of that but Mr. Mayor we need to make sure
and maybe Mr. Andrew can answer for himself. He’s of age but I just need to know how can we
have so many, many mistakes like that?
Mr. Mayor: Mr. MacKenzie, would you like to respond?
Mr. MacKenzie: Sure, I would like to respond. First, initially if I made a mistake with
respect to the last meeting I talked to you yesterday and asked you if you could share any of
those details with me and you declined to do that. I would appreciate the opportunity to at least -
--
Mr. Williams: And I had a right, hold it hold it now. He, you can’t, Mr. Andrew, you
can’t come in and question me about what you asked me in a private conversation. I’m handling
public business in public. Now if you needed to know something you showed up here and I
explained to yesterday that you was a very smart man and you probably had the answers in your
head ---
Mr. Mayor: I’ll give you another two. Let’s not be personal.
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Mr. Williams: I’m not getting personal, Mr. Mayor. He’s stated that he asked me
yesterday to tell him what I wanted. And I put it on the agenda and I stipulated on the agenda. I
didn’t just have him guessing at it. But then he got personal saying I didn’t respond or didn’t tell
him. I wasn’t supposed to tell him. He’s supposed to be ready. He’s supposed to know this
stuff. He’s qualified they say to do that.
Mr. Mayor: Well, let’s give him a chance to respond.
Mr. MacKenzie: Sure, so what I was saying I, if there was an error that you perceived
was made with respect to parliamentary advice that was given at the last meeting I do not have
any of the facts relating to that to know whether or not a mistake was made. Perhaps I didn’t
hear some of the motion so if you perceive an error has been made I would appreciate the
opportunity to clarify with me. There may have just been something I didn’t hear. If there’s all
these errors I’d like to know the facts and know what the error is so I can seek to correct those.
But I’d also like to make it clear as well from the rules that the parliamentary inquiry I provide
advice to the Chair whether that be the Mayor in a commission meeting or whether that be a
chairperson if it’s in a committee meeting. I don’t give advice to any of the other entities or
body unless that’s through the Chair. And it’s the Chair’s ruling that goes. So it doesn’t even
matter if I give the advice the Chair can go against the ruling that I made. It’s the Chair’s ruling
that stands so that can be appealed. And you mentioned one something that happened earlier
even today. There are some issues that I do have with that particular issue but I wasn’t asked for
an opinion on that. So that would be my response to that. But I appreciate your bringing that up
to my attention.
Mr. Williams: First thing, Mr. Mayor, I’ve got the document here I can share with the
Attorney. He can look back (unintelligible) when all this took place because we got it all written
down here. But the other thing is it’s not about advising anybody or any one Commissioner. I’m
not asking for any leniency or any way turn away from what is right. The issue that I have when
I asked the question or when something’s being done and it’s not right I shouldn’t have to ask the
attorney. The attorney who has a mike and several of them down there ought to speak up and
address that issue so we won’t get into trouble about it. Now it’s that I got a, if I got to correct
him I need to be making his salary. But he is in the position to correct us whenever we go astray
whenever we go off on the wrong path. So it’s not about him informing me or informing any
other commissioner it’s giving this body the guidelines or the rules that he’s supposed to know
and supposed to have. Now Mr. Mason was here and we commented that there’s a motion that
was on the floor. Somebody pulled the motion back and somebody wanted to make a substitute
motion and I argued the point there’s no substitute motion because the first motion was pulled
back. And the ruling from the attorney was and I got the document here he can look at it and see
and read it word for word Mr. Mayor. I’m not just reaching up in the air grabbing straws out of
the air. I’m trying to get us to make sure we stay on the same level of the playing field so we’ll
fair with everybody. That’s all I want to do.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, Commissioner Williams. And I will just as the
parliamentarian I do seek the advice of the Attorney. But I will also say it sometimes can be
apparent, it gets a little tough to keep up, up here when it’s going back and forth and everything.
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So just please I ask that you consider that as well but thank you sir. Okay, Madam Clerk, next
agenda item.
The Clerk: Item 30 is to discuss ---
Mr. Mayor: Okay, what’s that?
Ms. Davis: We need a motion.
Mr. Mason: We did nothing with that.
a motion to receive this as information?
Mr. Mayor: It was, can I get
Mr. Lockett: So moved.
Mr. Mayor: Do we have a second?
Ms. Davis: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion that’s been made and properly seconded. Commissioners
will now vote by the usual sign of voting.
Mr. Guilfoyle out.
Motion Passes 8-0.
Mr. Mayor: Okay and Commissioner Mason you got an election to win before you can
be parliamentarian.
Mr. Mason: While you’re still there we need to get it correct.
Mr. Mayor: I understand. Like I say sometimes it’s like herding cats. Madam Clerk,
next agenda item please.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
30. Discuss residential status of department directors. (Requested by Commissioner
Marion Williams)
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams, this was yours.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, this was an item I had added on. I had it on
committee and it was on the wrong agenda. But that’s fine. We had it moved to the full
commission. And the reason I asked for this I wanted to get a report the status of how much and
how many department heads that are living outside Richmond County that are working in
Richmond County. Now at one point you had to live within Richmond County in order to work
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for Richmond County whether it be the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office or the Augusta Police
Department or the Augusta Fire Department. And I’m assuming that changed but I don’t know
when that changed. If it has I’d like to find out when that changed who voted to change that and
why. I’m not saying that anybody ought to be brought back into the county. I’m not saying that
but I think we got to stop this madness. We got to figure out a way to make sure when people
come into this county or work for this county the live in Richmond County. We’ve got a lot of
people that live outside of this area who are bad mouthing this area but taking the tax dollars
home. Now if it ain’t good enough for you to live here you ought not to get to take your
paycheck home then. So I’d like to know how many employees especially department heads, not
employees for department heads and what total salary that comes to. In order to be on a board in
Richmond County you got to live in Richmond County. In order to run for office in Richmond
County you got to live in Richmond County. In order to serve in Richmond County in a
government capacity in any form shape or fashion you got to live here. Now is it that we have
department heads who live in everywhere else they want to live at. Now at one point we was
told by the previous Sheriff that he couldn’t find no qualified sheriff’s in the city limits so he
went outside. Well he just didn’t go outside everybody else went outside. And I need to find out
I need to get a report back just for my personal. I don’t need any names I need the number of
how many employees and how much that equates to.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, sir. Commissioner Smith.
Mr. D. Smith: This was just brought to my attention. I’d like the Attorney to give us
some advice. Will you check and see if Municipal Code 45-2-5, I’m sorry it’s a State Code 45-
2-5 and it discusses municipal and county governments prohibiting from requiring officers and
employees to live in the county, see if that’s applicable to our situation?
Mr. MacKenzie: If I can respond to that.
Mr. Mayor: Mr. MacKenzie.
Mr. MacKenzie: Yes, I actually saw this of the agenda and had already looked at that
particular code section previously. It’s a very short code section if you’d like me to read it into
the record. I think it would clarify this issue. It says, no municipal or county government in the
state shall require as a condition of employment of such government that applicants for
employment as officers or employees or such officers or employees now or hereafter employed
must reside within the boundaries of the municipality or county. So there is a state law
restriction that prohibits counties from having a geographical restriction on their employees.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams.
Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I read that. I’ve got a copy of in my email. I
understand that but several municipalities have a way of doing it whether it be point system or
how ever way of doing it. I’m not saying that people should not live anyway but Augusta. I’m
not saying that. But we got too many department heads and the other entities the other cities
across this state and just dealing with the state of Georgia find a way to do it. Now if we don’t
say nothing, you don’t get anything. And I’m saying making it mandatory that the people that’s
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already living somewhere else had to be moved back into this city. I’m saying that. But if we
don’t stop the madness because when the next person we hire comes in or the next person applies
for a position especially that of a director and then they move to another county and take the
money from this county, there’s something wrong with that. And that’s just my opinion. Now I
read that code but I need to know the code from the city of Augusta and what the city of Augusta
says. But we had a code or had a, I won’t say a law, I don’t what it was at that point put in place
where you had to stay within the guidelines of the city. When that was changed. I need to know
when that was changed and who voted on it.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, Commissioner Williams. And I just, you know, my
question would be based on what you said is was it changed when state law was approved that
motion to receive this as information?
superseded local law. So can I get a
Mr. Mason: So moved.
Mr. Lockett: We have a motion that’s been properly seconded. Commissioners will now
vote by the usual sign.
Mr. Johnson, Mr. Jackson and Mr. Guilfoyle out.
Motion Passes 6-0.
Mr. Mayor: It is my understanding we have no need for a Legal. If there’s no further
business to come before the body ---
Mr. Williams: Hold on, Mr. Mayor. Who said we didn’t have any need for a Legal?
We’ve got some personnel issues.
Mr. Mayor: The attorney said that he did not have any legal issues to ---
Mr. Williams: The attorney works for this board. We don’t work for him yet. We might
be working for him after a while but ---
Mr. Mayor: But usually the attorney brings forward the slate of issues to be discussed in
Legal.
Mr. Williams: Okay, we got a legal because we got personnel issues I need to discuss.
Mr. Mayor. Now if we can’t discuss it, fine, but I got a personnel issue.
ADDENDUM
33. Motion to approve going into a legal meeting.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, can I get a motion to go into Legal session to discuss personnel?
Mr. Williams: So moved.
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Ms. Davis: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion that’s been properly seconded. If there is no further
discussion to come before, excuse me, Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign.
Mr. Lockett votes No.
Mr. Johnson and Mr. Guilfoyle out.
Motion Passes 6-1.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we are in Legal.
[LEGAL MEETING]
Mr. Mayor: Okay, I’ll go ahead and call the meeting back to order. Mr. MacKenzie.
34. Motion to authorize execution by the Mayor of the affidavit of compliance with
Georgia’s Open Meeting Act.
Mr. MacKenzie: I would entertain a motion to execute the Closed Meeting Affidavit.
Mr. Lockett: So moved.
Mr. Johnson: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion that’s been properly seconded. Commissioners will now
vote by the usual sign.
Mr. Guilfoyle and Mr. G. Smith out.
Motion Passes 7-0.
Mr. Mayor: With no further business to come before the body we stand adjourned.
[MEETING ADJOURNED]
Nancy Morawski
Deputy Clerk of Commission
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CERTIFICATION:
I, Lena J. Bonner, Clerk of Commission, hereby certify that the above is a true and correct copy
of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Augusta Richmond County Commission held on
December 3, 2013.
____________________________________
Clerk of Commission
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