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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRegular Commission Meeting November 20, 2012 REGULAR MEETING COMMISSION CHAMBER NOVEMBER 20, 2012 Augusta Richmond County Commission convened at 5:00 p.m., November 20, 2012, the Hon. Deke Copenhaver, Mayor, presiding. PRESENT: Hons. Lockett, Guilfoyle, Mason, Smith, Hatney, Johnson, Jackson, Bowles and Brigham, members of Augusta Richmond County Commission. Absent: Hon. Aitken, member of Augusta Richmond County Commission. Mr. Mayor: I’ll call to order the Regular Commission Meeting. I call on Reverend Chavis L. Boyd, Pastor, Mt. Vernon Missionary Baptist Church for our invocation. Please stand. The invocation was given by Reverend Boyd. Mr. Mayor: Please join me in the Pledge. And, Pastor, if you could please come forward I’ve a little something for you. Thank you so much for that invocation. Office of The Mayor. By these present be it known that Reverend Chavis L. Boyd, Pastor, Mt. Vernon Missionary Baptist Church is Chaplain of the Day. For his civic and spiritual guidance demonstrated throughout the community. Serves as an example for all of the faith community. Given under th my hand this 20 Day of November 2012. Deke Copenhaver, Mayor. (APPLAUSE) Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, recognitions, please. The Clerk: RECOGNITION(S) Juriah Lewis A. The Augusta Public Transit System Map recently received the 2012 Savvy Award of Excellence from the City-County Communication and Association (3CMA) Savvy Award Programs. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Lewis. Mr. Lewis: All right. This is from the good news department. This summer the City of th Augusta IT Department along with the Augusta Public Transit was named finalist in their 24 Annual Savvy Awards of Excellence. It was from the City, County Communications and th Marketing Association that’s 3CMA which was held in Portland, Oregon on September the 6 2012 of this year. The 3CMA recognized outstanding local government, achievements and communications, public sector marketing and citizen government relationships. The City, County Communications and Marketing Association is the lead organization for local governments that are innovating new and better ways of communicating with their citizens by viewing them as customers with important input and to the kinds of service offered and they are 1 provided. That’s a mouth full. Okay, although we didn’t send any representation let me read that again. Although we didn’t send any representation out to Portland we were named the winner this year in the category of graphic design and other promotional items. This is a copy of the system map. I’ll put one in front of all of you. I just want to thank you, Mr. Mayor and the Commissioners, for allowing me this time to recognize the following individuals for their hard work in making this award a reality. Before I call them up I just want to read the comments that the judges had to say. Somebody read this and said did I write it but I didn’t write it. The Award of Excellence to Augusta Georgia Public Transit System Map. Often organizations are required to produce material due to state or federal law. But that doesn’t mean they do it well. This year’s recipient of the Award of Excellence went the extra mile and produced a map that is clear and well designed. Additionally they improved and utilized innovation to create pocket guides that are over the top amazing. From numbering to color coding everything about the pocket guide is very well done. From design, it’s compact size to the information. The City of Augusta Georgia Trans APT Map is well deserving of the Award of Excellence. Will Ms. Tameka Allen, our IT Director, please come forward? I want to thank Ms. Tameka Allen for allowing me to use her staff and helping put this map together. Without her and her staff we never would’ve got to this point. Some of the staff members Ms. Evelyn Brenes. She is our GIS Specialist. This map is bilingual. It was funny because when Evelyn got through proofing it she put it on my desk I couldn’t speak Spanish so I couldn’t proof it but I recognized one word. Autobus. I put it back on her desk and said it looks good to me. Okay, Ms. Sharon Dottery. She’s with Augusta Public Transit. Some of you think I work for Augusta Public Transit but I don’t so I had to get with Sharon and use her staff and they helped us greatly. And one of those people that helped us Mr. David Jones. David Jones is the Operation Manager formerly of Augusta Public Transit now with I don’t know the name of that company but he’s working for them now. David did all the driving and I appreciated it. Now you see this system map? Great photos in it. The photographer is here. I’m glad she was able to make it. Ms. Rebecca Rogers, would you please come forward. She did all the photos. I was trying to get a candid shot. You can barely see my foot in front of this bus right here in front of the Georgia Bank and Trust. Yeah, she made me get out of the picture. But I’m going to recognize it anyway and I want to thank you. And last but not least Ms. Michele Pearman. She is our GIS Project Leader. You’re looking at the guts, the brains and all the above. She helped put this thing together. She’s not a very patient person to work with but besides that I want to thank her. Also I want to thank the citizens. You see these pictures we’ve got some great photos in here of the citizens. We didn’t have to give them anything. Some wanted compensation we told them thank you. But this thing was done completely in house. I was able to attend a conference in Myrtle Beach and the used it as an example. I was also able to attend a conference in Georgia Transit Association in Macon and they used it as an example. It has our bus shelters listed on it and like I said it’s bilingual. It’s just a great system map and what I do is just help the system to go along with this Award of Excellence. So, Ms. Allen, there’s the IT. Ms. Dottery. And I just want to tell them thank you. (APPLAUSE) Mr. Mayor: Well done. Madam Clerk, on to the delegations. The Clerk: DELEGATIONS 2 B. Mr. Andy Cheek regarding the continued degradation of the center of the Augusta’s Canal’s Diversion Dam and the need for immediate attention. Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, if I could before the clock starts I like to make sure I have the gadgetry working properly. Mr. Mayor: You can and then get it rolling. Wayne? Mr. Guilfoyle: Yes, can you state your name and address for the record, please? Mr. Cheek: My name is Andy Cheek. I reside at 539 West Five Notch Road in North Augusta, SC. Mr. Guilfoyle: I was picking on you, Andy. Mr. Cheek: I know that. I still have property at 2129 Howard Road, Augusta GA. Mr. Mayor, thank you very much. It’s an honor to be here. Commissioners. What I’m going to show you today is a section of the dam, of the conversion dam in Columbia County that’s essential for us being able to pump water using hydraulic power. I would have to replace that with diesel fuel in the three operational mills. If this section of the dam fails we lose about twelve feet of head which would eliminate that capability and cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars annually to pump until it’s repaired. It may cause us to go into federal dam safety criteria for the 2012 year which would require seismic requalification in an environmental study that could take years. If we take the time to repair this now it will save us money and make a 160 year old structure last another 160 years perhaps. I’m going to pass this around. The hole that you see in the front here is conservative compared to actual problem within the dam. This is the dam, this is the hole. We found it around 2004. The initial was under water. A full grown diver was able to swim up into the buttress structure and so that would make the penetration and what you’ll see later on the failure where water’s actually coming through the dam 100% with complete collapse of about 35%. The pipe that you see sticking through there just for scale is still in place. It’s a 10-inch PVC pipe that goes from the upstream to the downstream side and water was flowing through it. There’s complete breach is this location. When they came in and did the repairs in 2006 they attempted to pour concrete into the area and seal it up. Temporarily plugged the lower hole did not stop the leak and what it did was force continued erosion to occur within the structure upward weakening both the top structure and the walls. What I want you to take a look at right here as you see the side of these rocks these are 500 or more pounds and in various geometry it’s all held together by concrete. It’s not hydraulic concrete it’s very old concrete. And so the continued washing of the water is causing this to collapse inward and then the rocks are being washed out and downstream. Just in scale that’s me standing on top. This is a Ford that was left as a 4x4. This is a piece of plywood that’s still in place embedded in the concrete that they poured. The hole extends up to this area right here. It has gone, it’s crept up in two years since my last inspection about 2 ½ feet. This is another section of the dam that needs attention. This collapse is four feet into the interior face roughly 25% total of collapse at the front of dam. This needs to be addressed at some point in the near future. There’s an overall picture of the dam. It’s been there for over 140 years. It’s the second dam. It was built during the Olmstead Expansion of the canal. The trees that you see have trunk 3 diameters about the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. I want you to look at the dam, the buttress itself and notice the ragged edges along the sides and the way the water is cascading off of it. These are absent missing stones and rocks and the structure is being washed away from the top. And again this is the area where the failures occurred. When I was out there we were having 3600 cubic feet per second flow and so my wife would not allow me to go inside the dam. These are the remaining buttresses of the dam. There’s four of them total. You’ll notice the nice square structure here. These are intact and withstood the years very well. Again these trees are roughly 75 feet long and 4 feet in diameter some of them and they’re very difficult to remove but that puts pressure on the dam. Three years ago I came before you and asked that this be expedited. I was told that when we looked at the fish ladder, construction of the fish ladder that would begin in two years that we would also make this repair. After quizzing people in the Canal Authority and folks in the know this repair my understanding was not even on the radar screen. And that’s why I’m here today because gentlemen this needs to be expedited. And what I’m here to ask you to do in the interest of preserving this for the remaining of prosperity, for our children and we’ve all benefited in this city from the canal is to authorize utilities to expedite making the repairs in what we should probably say is restore and it keeps us out of dam safety language is to restore this section and to make it sound again before it collapses and costs the city much, much more to make those restorations. Mr. Mayor: Five minutes exactly. Yes sir, Commissioner Jackson. Mr. Jackson: Andy, that was a nice photo shop of you there. Mr. Administrator, do we have money to fix the dam? Mr. Russell: In the bonding that was done there’s dollars available to do that. As you know we’ve always wanted to do the fish ladder and the dam at the same time because of the cost savings it would do by immobilizing once. I agree with my good friend Mr. Cheek that as the fish ladder continues to wander back and forth and have less assuredly Mr. Wiedmeier and I had talked just yesterday about this when we saw that Andy was on the agenda. And the savings that we anticipate by waiting and doing this all at once are probably negligible as opposed to the additional cost of waiting to do it later. And I’ve instructed Tom to go ahead and move forward with this process and determine whether or not we can get it done fairly quickly. Mr. Jackson: I don’t have a problem with that. But if we’re going out with an emergency repair order or any type of order for that I believe that Doug Bernard Parkway, Highway 50, the loop going out to the airport was supposed to be finished. And if that’s any indication of how we’re spending money and not having something fixed and I hope that we can accomplish this in a better fashion. Thank you. Mr. Mayor: Thank you and thank you, Mr. Cheek. Madam Clerk, on to the next delegation. The Clerk: DELEGATION(S) 4 C. Mr. Michael J. Walraven regarding concerns pertaining to the new Business Improvement District Management Plan. Mr. Mayor: And if you could keep it to five minutes, please, sir. Mr. Walraven: Mr. Mayor and council, thank you for allowing me to speak with you this evening. I’m going to speak about taxes. My wife and I own a building and business in downtown Augusta. Currently we are assessed three different taxes on this property. These taxes are the Urban Maintenance and Operations Tax, the County Maintenance and Operations Tax and the Urban BID Tax. I feel we are being overtaxed and I am going to concentrate on the Business Improvement District of BID Tax which is up for renewal this year. Georgia law allows for the establishment of BID which are the five special districts of which property owners agree to be taxed at a higher rate than the rest of the community. This is done in order to pay for expanded services that are not already being provided to the city as a whole. These services are supplemental to existing services. In order for a BID to be established 51% of the property owners agree to be taxed or 51% of the property owners with the highest tax assessed value agree to be taxed. Basically this means that a few persons who collectively own the most property via the tax assessment can represent a BID and request a BID. This is known as a Property Weighted Election. In Augusta a hand full of persons control most of the property in the BID and they voted for the BID tax by 77%. When the current BID was passed five years ago 46% of the individual property owners were against this tax. As a small business trying to make ends meet we were and still are against this extra tax. The largest property owner the Marriott Hotel was given a special district and taxed at a lower rate than the rest of the main BID. And in the new plan the Marriott still receives this preferential treatment. Per Professor Hoyt at M.I.T. researchers have criticized the organizational structure of BID’s for the governing boards having an equitable representation of residents and the less privileged class. They also criticized the legally enabled provision of Weighted Voting that develops larger that involves larger property owners more authority. Critics argued that such practices are not democratic as it serves the interests of and concentrates power with the privileged classes. Due to these features some alleged BID’s function more like clubs or property owners and business owners that have been given the power to management public spaces. That seems to be the case here in Augusta. As you can see I’m against having a BID. Per Georgia law BID’s can be used for security, advertising, promotions, sanitation, business recruitment and retention. Five years ago the management plan for BID’s listed security as a main priority and stated that off duty police officers would be hired to supplement the already existing security downtown. I cannot find any instances of this having occurred. In fact the management plan being submitted does not mention the hiring of off duty police nor does it mention the advertising, promotion or business recruitment and retention. The new plan only mentions sanitation and dust CADI. We are paying over $350,000 a year for a glorified trash service we do not need. In their annual report for 2011 the main claim to fame for the CADI is they removed approximately one ton of trash and debris from the BID district per week. Is this amount above and beyond the trash and debris the city already picks up in the BID? Remembers BID services are by law supplemental services and I double we generate that much trash. Although the members of a BID still pay taxes to the city to maintain a baseline services start rightly at. If a BID is sweeping its own sidewalk save but two hours what is left for the city to do? In other words if the city does its job CADI is not needed. Remember the BID and CADI services are supplemental to the city services. The 5 th current BID stops approximately at 8 Street. When you leave here tonight visit the BID area and go the 500/600 and the 700 blocks of Broad and Greene Street. Look and see if there’s garbage trash and debris piled to the roof. You will not see a problem because those property owners along with the existing city services maintain the non BID areas. The CADI program and thus the extra taxes are not needed. Please study this in Planning Committee before implementing it. Thank you for listening to me. If time permits I will be glad to answer questions. Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you, sir. Commissioner Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. How do you pronounce your last name? Mr. Walraven: Walraven. Mr. Lockett: Mr. Walraven? Mr. Walraven: Yes, sir. Mr. Lockett: This BID, who runs it? Mr. Walraven: It’s supposed to be a group of individuals once it’s passed it’s supposed to be a governing board that is of the so called property owners vote and elect a board to govern how the money is spent. Mr. Lockett: Who established this board? Mr. Walraven: I don’t know but I’ve never been contacted about a board so I don’t know, sir. Mr. Lockett: How long have you been a member of this particular? Mr. Walraven: We’ve been downtown, oh, close to 100 years but when the CADI started we were opposed to it then. Then we never heard anything else about it. Mr. Lockett: And you don’t know how the board is selected if it’s democratically selected? You don’t have any idea? Mr. Walraven: It’s supposed to be of the people in the district. It’s supposed be everyone on the, in the district the property owners in the district are, should be on the board --- Mr. Lockett: Okay --- Mr. Walraven: --- representative of everyone. Mr. Lockett: --- but they’re not. Is that correct? 6 Mr. Walraven: I don’t know that, sir. Mr. Lockett: But you’re a member, right? Mr. Walraven: I’m a member of the BID district but I’m not on the board. Mr. Lockett: Do they have bylaws? Mr. Walraven: That I could not answer, sir. Mr. Lockett: You mean you’re paying your money but you don’t know anything about the operation other than the fact that you’re dissatisfied with it. Mr. Walraven: Yes, sir. There are bylaws, they’re supposed to have bylaws and there’s supposed to be an independent tax free organization that runs this money. And it’s supposed to be governed by a board of the people of this district. Mr. Lockett: You mentioned about $350,000 a year? Mr. Walraven: Yes, sir. Mr. Lockett: Who’s responsible for the finances, keeping records and so forth? Mr. Walraven: In the last management plan they were supposed to submit to the city a financial director annual report and regular reports. Mr. Lockett: And my last question is have you ever seen these reports? Mr. Walraven: No, sir, I have not. Mr. Lockett: Thank you, sir. Mr. Walraven: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Commissioner Guilfoyle. Mr. Guilfoyle: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Walraven, as far as the taxes this BID of which has turned into CADI, I believe it comes up for renewal this year? Is that right, Mr. Administrator? Mr. Russell: Yes, sir. Mr. Guilfoyle: And we’ve got a, Margaret, I’ve seen her earlier. I would like for her to speak on behalf of this if she’s still available because it is a problem when we --- Mr. Mayor: Margaret, are you out there? 7 Mr. Guilfoyle: --- if it was designed to be enforcement and now it’s a cleaning service. Ms. Woodard: Good evening. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Guilfoyle had a couple of questions for you. Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir. Mr. Guilfoyle: As far as the monetary that the business is paying for this BID Program, does it go to the DDA or who does it go to? Ms. Woodard: It goes to the city. It’s collected on the tax bills and then the city is paid 1.5% to collect it and then it is given to the CADI organization, the board of directors. Mr. Guilfoyle: Okay, so it’s within the DDA hands to distribute and how to move forward with it. Originally it was supposed to be for enforcement. How did it go from enforcement to trash? Ms. Woodard: It is both. We are not law enforcement. We are security, we are extra eyes and ears for the city. We work with the Sheriff’s Department, we report broken infrastructure. Safety has a much bigger meaning than law enforcement. It’s broken light fixtures, it’s panhandling, it’s all sorts of things. So we do both. The beauty of the program is it can be tweaked at any time. Sometimes there needs to be more cleaning activities and then there’s First Friday’s or other events. Sometimes there needs to be more safety and ambassador activities. Mr. Guilfoyle: Right. Miss Margaret, apparently there’s problems within that design because we have Mr. Walraven here speaking on opposing the tax increase or the tax itself. It was designed for one purpose and now it’s being disbursed into others. As far as trash it was originally designed for enforcement. Ms. Woodard: No, sir, it was designed for both. Mr. Guilfoyle: Okay. Ms. Woodard: It was designed for cleanup and extra like I said an extra set of eyes and ears. We patrol downtown, we’re on SEGWAYS, we have radios to the police department. We have talked to Ronny many a time and we’re just extra eyes and ears. Mr. Guilfoyle: All right, well, I look forward to, I know this is going to come up before this Commission as well as the new Commission that’s coming on board. And I guess we need to go in depth and actually invite the business owners from downtown to be a part of the discussion. Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir. We are in the process of doing that right now. 8 Mr. Guilfoyle: Thank you so very much. Ms. Woodard: Thank you. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Ms. Woodard, I was unaware of the fact that you were here. I understand that you have a board of directors that are in charge of this operation. Is that correct? Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir, there are twelve voting members and four (unintelligible) members. Mr. Lockett: Was the democratic process used in order to get these twelve members? Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir. Mr. Lockett: And when did this happen and how often does it happen? Ms. Woodard: It happens every two years. Six board members roll off and then the next year another six and the nominating committee is formed by the board is appointed by the president of the board to go out and solicit interested parties. And then it’s brought to the board for a vote. Mr. Lockett: So all business members should be aware of that. Is that correct? Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir. Mr. Lockett: Okay, and I noticed that I think on your management plan it said that you all provided not only safety but enhanced safety. And you also made reference to a night safety patrol. Ms. Woodard: Yes, sir. We have ambassadors out on the street. And like I said the program gets tweaked. Generally it’s Monday through Thursday night they’re out until 8:00 o’clock. Thursday, Friday and Saturday they’re out until 10:00 o’clock p.m. Mr. Lockett: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Okay, thank you all. And, Madam Clerk, we will move along to the consent agenda. The Clerk: Yes, sir. Our consent agenda consists of items 1-21. And under the Planning portion of the agenda I’ll read the petitions and if there is anyone here who has an objection would you please signify your objection by raising your hand. 9 Item 1: Is a request to approve a petition by Charles Black for a Special Exception in a P-1 (Professional) Zone to establish an Adult Day Care Center on property located at 3408 Peach Orchard Road. The Clerk: And on item two Mr. Patty has requested to address this item regarding a slight change in the condition for the approval. And I’ll go ahead and read the item. Item 2: It is to approve with conditions a petition for a request for a Special Exception in and HI (Heavy Industry) Zone to establish a waste management operation on property located at 3925 Goshen Industrial Boulevard. Item 3: Is a request to approve a petition for a Special Exception to establish support vehicle parking for the Augusta National Golf Club on property located at 2726 Cherry Lane. Item 4: Is a request to approve a petition for a change of zoning from Zone R-1 (One- family Residential) to Zone R-1C (One-family Residential) with a Special Exception to establish a detached patio home development on property located at 1219 and 1227 Reid Road. Item 5: Is a request to approve a petition for a change of zoning from Zone P-1 (Professional) to Zone R-1 (One-family Residential) on property located at 224 Davis Road. Item 6: Is a request to approve a petition for a change of zoning from Zone R-1A (One- family Residential) to Zone B-2 (General Business) on property located 3343 Peach Orchard Road. Item 7: Is a request to approve with the conditions listed a petition for a modification of conditions place on approximately 44 acres that were the subject of previous zoning cases, the last one being for a B-1 (Neighborhood Business) with a Special Exception to allow individual buildings in a shopping center to exceed 15,000 feet in area on this property which is located on the northeast corner of the intersection of Walton Way Extension and Interstate 20. Item 8: Is a request to approve with a condition a petition to modify conditions from 2003 zoning case (Z-03-02) thereby allowing access to Bowers Road on property located at 1704-1714 (even numbers only) Bowers Road. Item 9: A request to approve a petition for a change of zoning from Zone R-3C (Multiple-family Residential) to Zone P-1 (Professional) on property located at 2455 and 2467 Golden Camp Road. The Clerk: Are there any objectors to any of these Planning petitions? Mr. Russell: None noted, Madam Clerk. The Clerk: Under the Public Services Portion of the agenda I will read the applications then if there are any objectors would you signify your objection by raising your hand. Item 10: Is a request for a retail package Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Hiral Enterprises, Inc. DBA H & S Wine & Spirits located at 3150 Wrightsboro Rd., Suite B. Item 11: Is a request for a retail package Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Hiral Enterprise, Inc. DBA Super Express #1 located at 3150 Wrightsboro Rd. Item 12: Is a request for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Surreal at Surrey located at 469 Highland Ave. There will be Dance. 10 Item 13: Is a request for an on premise consumption Beer license to be used in connection with Maria’s Island Restaurant, LLC located at 2579 Tobacco Rd. with Dance. Item 14: Is a request to renew all current Alcohol Beverage Licenses as well as Adult Entertainment Establishments, Arcades and Dance Halls for the year 2013 with Dance and Sunday Sales. The Clerk: Are there any objectors to any of these alcohol petitions? Mr. Russell: None noted, Madam Clerk. The Clerk: Our consent agenda is items 1-21. Mr. Mayor: Thank you, ma’am. Gentlemen, do we have any additions to the agenda. Commissioner Johnson. Mr. Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Let’s see item 32, item 31 and if we don’t have any issues item 28. And 33, I’m sorry. Mr. Mayor: Gentlemen? Commissioner Mason. Mr. Mason: Let me answer that. On the Engineering Services portion we can add 27 if there’s no objections. Was 28 said already? Mr. Johnson: Yes. Mr. Mason: 31 and 32? 33, 36 and 34, I guess, I’m not really sure what that is. Can you? Mr. Mayor: Yes, sir. Mr. MacKenzie. Mr. MacKenzie: 34 is actually another one that was on consent too. There’s some technical corrections to some provisions to insure that they comply with the name Augusta Georgia as well as some inconsistencies between different versions of ordinances being approved. There’s no substantive changes then. Mr. Mayor: Thirty four as well? Mr. Mason: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Mr. Chairman, under Administrative Services consent 23, 26 and per request of Commissioner Matt Aitken I’d like to send agenda item number 24 back to Administrative Services Committee. 11 Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have any further additions? Do we have any items to be pulled for discussion? Okay and I know Mr. Patty, George are you here? I know you had an alteration to I believe it was item number two on consent. Go ahead. Mr. Patty: When this was heard by the Planning Commission we were told that all, this is a petition to allow an old vacant warehouse on Goshen Industrial Boulevard to be used to park garbage trucks. And it’s close to backing up to but doesn’t actually back up to a subdivision Pine View Subdivision. And when we were approached by this we were told that all trucks would be washed at the landfill before returning to this location. And we approved it with two conditions that was one of them. We learned that afterwards some of the trucks, most of the trucks would be washed but some of them that were partially full would not be dumped that day and they would return with a partial load onto this location. And therefore they couldn’t live with the condition that they’d all be cleaned at the location. So we believe that it will be okay to substitute a condition that all trucks would be parked at least 400 feet from any resident were the one, the second condition you see on the agenda. We recommend that you do that. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Mason. Mr. Mason: Are you advocating that the vehicles that have a load be kept overnight in that area close to the subdivision? Is that what I’m hearing you say? Mr. Patty: No, it’s not, it’s not. I don’t know if you know where Pine View Subdivision is but it’s, it comes off of Highway 56. It’s probably you know, the entrance is a long way from where this is. But they do coalesce to some extent. Mr. Mayor: Okay, you guys good. Mr. Mason: I defer it to the Commissioner of the district. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Yes, sir, Commissioner Guilfoyle. Mr. Guilfoyle: All right since I’ve been put up here, no I’ve already talked to my appointment as well as Mr. Patty about this, this Pine View. There is some distance between it and it’s an industrial area and there is some provisions in case there is the smell and trash being around. Mr. Mayor: Okay, so you’re good with --- Mr. Guilfoyle: Yes. Mr. Mayor: --- the changes that Mr. Patty made. Yes, sir, Commissioner Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Mr. Chairman, per the request of the Administrator agenda item number 22 I want to send it back to Committee please. Mr. Mayor: Okay. 12 Mr. Jackson: Motion to approve. Mr. Mason: Second. CONSENT AGENDA PLANNING 1. Z-12-60 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Charles Black requesting a Special Exception in a P-1 (Professional) Zone to establish an Adult Day Care Center per Section 26-1(e) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance affecting property containing .59 acres and is known as 3408 Peach Orchard Road. Tax Map 133-1-026-00-0 DISTRICT 6 2. Z-12-61 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve with the following conditions 1) no waste or salvage material may be stored on the property and 2) only waste/garbage vehicles that have been cleaned off site may be parked on the subject property; a petition by David Rivers, on behalf of Broome Holdings, Inc., requesting a Special Exception in an HI (Heavy Industry) Zone to establish a waste management operation per Section 24-2 (17) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance affecting property containing approximately 10 acres and is known as 3925 Goshen Industrial Boulevard. Tax Map 184-2-001-00-0 DISTRICT 8 3. Z-12-62 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Patrick J. Rice, on behalf of Berckman Residential Properties LLC, requesting a Special Exception to establish support vehicle parking for the Augusta National Golf Club per Section 8-2(b) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance affecting property containing approximately .64 acres and is known as 2726 Cherry Lane. Tax Map 018-0-104-00-0 DISTRICT 7 4. Z-12-63 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Phillip Hibbard, on behalf of James E. Davis Jr., requesting a changing of zoning from Zone R-1 (One-family Residential) to Zone R-1C (One-family Residential) with a Special Exception to establish a detached patio home development per Section 11-2(a) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance affecting property containing approximately 1.61 acres and is known as 1219 and 1227 Reid Road. Tax Map 032-4-035- 00-0 & 032-4-040-00-0 DISTRICT 3 5. Z-12-64 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Beverly and Jerry O’Hara, on behalf of Betty Standard, a change of zoning from Zone P-1 (Professional) to Zone R-1 (One-family Residential)affecting property containing approximately 1.97 acres and is known as 224 Davis Road. Tax Map 016-0-033-01-0 DISTRICT 7 6. Z-12-65 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Marie Jenkins, on behalf of Calvary Temple Church of Augusta, requesting a change of zoning from Zone R-1A (One-family Residential) to Zone B-3 (General Business) affecting property containing approximately 1.81 acres and is known as 3343 Peach Orchard Road. Tax Map 122-3-020-00-0 & 122-3-020-02-0 DISTRICT 6 7. Z-12-66 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve with the conditions listed below a petition by Mark and Chris Senn, on behalf of Nixon Trust, requesting a modification of conditions placed on approximately 44 acres that 13 were the subject of previous zoning cases, the last one being Z-08-38 for B-1 (Neighborhood Business) with a Special Exception to allow individual buildings in a shopping center to exceed 15,000 square feet in area per Section 21-2)a) of the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance for Augusta, Georgia affecting property containing five land parcels totally 44.4 acres located on the northeast corner of the intersection of Walton Way Extension and Interstate 20. (Tax Map 016-0-055-00-0; 016-0-052-01-0, 016-0-052-00-0; 016-0-051-01-0 and 016-0-051-00-0 DISTRICT 7 1. There shall be no development or other encroachment in the 100 year flood plain except for connections to sewer lines if necessary; 2. The only access to the property shall be a new intersection on Walton Way Extension in the vicinity of Hebron Court to be paid for by the developer of the subject property. This intersection shall also provide access t the apartment complex across Walton Way Extension. The intersection shall be signalized and the cost of equipment and installation shall be borne by the developer of the subject property. If a signal is determined not to be required by AASHTO standards at this new intersection based upon a traffic study provided by the developer and agreed upon by the City then the developer will put up a letter of credit in an amount to be determined by the City to cover the cost of signalization if it is deemed necessary within 3 years. 3. The only access to Walton Way Extension except at the new signalized intersection would be a right in-right out access point that serves the entire development. If out parcels fronting on Walton Way Extension are created there shall be no access easements placed on plats and deed of such parcels except for the one right in- right out access point. 4. Illumination at the rear of the complex is a potential impact that can be mitigated by the following: § A fence, wall or solid vegetative screen shall be located outside the entire floodplain at least six (6) feet in height above the ground elevation or elevation of any retaining wall or fill at that location. § For building walls facing the floodplain on the creek side of the property, all building wall lights shall be directed down the building, not outward; § In the rear parking area there shall be full cutoff lighting that does not shine into the floodplain. 5. That the only development of this property other than development allowed in the R-1 and R-1A zones shall be a mixed use commercial and multiple-family residential use consistent with the concept plan presented in Z-12-66. If site plans for such development are not presented within two years of approval of the rezoning then the zoning of this property reverts to R-1A. If development of the property does not begin within three years of approval of the rezoning, then the zoning classification reverts to R-1A. 6. That the Stormwater facility shall be built to accommodate a 100 year storm and release it at no more than 90% of the predevelopment rate. 8. Z-12-67 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve with the condition that the new development conform to all fire codes; a petition by Allen Woodward, on behalf of Woodward Enterprises, requesting to modify conditions from 2003 zoning case (Z-03-02) thereby allowing access to Bowers Road for six new affecting property containing six land parcels totally approximately 5.16 acres and is known as 1704-1714 (even numbers only) Bowers Road. Tax Map 170-4-006-00-0, 170-4- 007-00-0, 170-4-008-00-0, 174-4-009-00-0, 174-4-010-00-0, & 170-4-011-00-0 DISTRICT 8 9. Z-12-68 – A request for concurrence with the Augusta Georgia Planning Commission to approve a petition by Greg Page, on behalf of Belle Terrace United Presbyterian Church, requesting a change of zoning from Zone R-3C (Multiple-family Residential) to Zone P-1 (Professional) affecting property containing approximately 7.08 acres and is known as 2455 and 2467 Golden Camp Road. Tax Map 096-2-076-01-0 DISTRICT 5 14 PUBLIC SERVICES 10. Motion to approve a request by the Planning & Development Department Licensing Division to renew all current Alcohol Beverage Licenses as well as Adult Entertainment Establishments, Arcades and Dance Halls for the year 2013. There will be Dance. There will be Sunday Sales. District 1 thru 8. Super District 9 & 10. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 12, 2012) 11. Motion to approve New Ownership Application: A.N. 12-43: A request by Ritaben Patel for a retail package Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Hiral Enterprises, Inc. DBA H&S Wine & Spirits located at3150 Wrightsboro Rd., Suite B. District 5. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 12, 2012) 12. Motion to approve New Ownership Application: A.N. 12-44: A request by Ritaben Patel for a retail package Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Hiral Enterprise, Inc. DBA Super Express #1 located at 3150 Wrightsboro Rd. District 5. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 12, 2012) 13. Motion to approve New Ownership Application: A.N. 12-45: request by Matthew Widener for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with Surreal at Surrey located at 469 Highland Ave. There will be Dance. District 7. Super District 10. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 12, 2012) 14. Motion to approve New Application: A.N. 12-46: request by Jasmin Bradley for an on premise consumption Beer license to be used in connection with Maria’s Island Restaurant, LLC located at 2579 Tobacco Rd. There will be Dance. District 4. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services Committee November 12, 2012) PUBLIC SAFETY 15. Motion to approve of Georgia Health Sciences University to serve as the Medical Director for the Augusta Fire Department EMS program. (Approved by Public Safety Committee November 12, 2012) 16. Motion to approve authorization of funds ($11,055.00) for the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office Multi-Jurisdictional K-9 Task Force. (Approved by Public Safety Committee November 12, 2012) 17. Motion to approve Award Bid 12-186 Fiber Installers to CCU/Southeast Utilities for the Traffic Engineering Department and the Sheriff’s Office. (Approved by Public Safety Committee November 12, 2012) 18. Motion to award three (3) year contract for telephone services to AT&T (Approved by Public Safety Committee November 12, 2012) FINANCE 19. Motion to approve the replacement of two agricultural tractors for the Augusta Engineering Department – Maintenance Division. (Approved by Finance Committee November 12, 2012) 20. Motion to approve the continuation of the GPS tracking service subscription with GPS North America and approve purchase of thirty additional units including tracking subscription. (Approved by Finance Committee November 12, 2012) PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS 15 21. Motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of the Commission held November 8 and Special Called Meeting held November 12, 2012. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 22. Approve the renewal of existing Master Services Agreement with ADP to provide Health and Welfare services and Time and Labor Management services for Augusta, GA employees. 23. An Ordinance to amend, update and make certain corrections to the Augusta, GA Code, Title Eight, Chapter Three Article One Section 8-3-1 relating to the incorporation of the Land Subdivision Regulations Article One through Article Six to repeal all ordinances and parts of ordinances in conflict herewith; to provide an effective date and for the other purposes provided herein. 24. Discuss Augusta Youth Center Lease Agreement. (Requested by Commissioner Matt Aitken) Referred from October 29 Administrative Services Committee) 26. Motion to approve the minutes of the Administrative Services Committee held on October 29, 2012. ENGINEERING SERVICES 27. Approve construction contract award to Lakeshore Engineering LLC in the amount of $1,334,492.00. 28. Approve Avrett Plumbing Company, Inc. in the amount of $229,200.13 for cleaning of sanitary sewer systems to be performed under Account Number 506043410-52232220. 31. Motion to approve and accept the water and gravity sanitary sewer Deed of Dedication and Maintenance Agreement for Heritage Park. 32. Motion to approve a contract with the Georgia Department of Transportation (GDOT) for the James Brown Blvd. Streetscape Project as requested by AED-Traffic Engineering. 33. Motion to approve the minutes of the Engineering Services Committee held on October 29, 2012. 34. An Ordinance to amend, update, and make certain corrections to the Augusta, Georgia Code, Title Seven Chapter Three Article Two Section 7-3-8 through 7-3-10; to repeal all Code sections and ordinances and parts of Code sections and ordinances in conflict herewith; to provide an effective date and for other purposes provided herein. 36. Approve Utilities Sole Source Purchase of Meters from Clayton County. Mr. Mayor: We have a motion to approve the consent agenda and a second. If there’s no further discussion Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign of voting. Motion carries 9-0. [Items 1-24, 26-28, 31-34, 36] Mr. Mayor: And, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, I turn the gavel over to you. It’s my birthday and I’ve enjoyed spending the first half of it with all of ya’ll, but my wife is calling me home. (Commission members sing Happy Birthday) Mr. Mayor: Brad Means already did that this morning. Please don’t do it twice. 16 Mr. Bowles: Al, I still have the stopwatch. Mr. Mason: I know I hate, but you won’t need it. Not from me today. Mr. Bowles: I’d like to bring up item 25 next please, Madam Clerk. The Clerk: ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES 25. Motion to uphold denial of bid protest regarding RFP #12-182 Third Party Administrator/Administrative Services Only filed by Meritain Health, Inc. Mr. Jackson: Motion to deny. Mr. Bowles: We’ve got a motion to deny. Is there a second or any discussion? Mr. Guilfoyle: Second. Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Mason. Mr. Mason: I want to make a substitute motion if I could Mr. Mayor Pro Tem to the substitute motion would be not to uphold the denial motion is to uphold the denial? Then my or however we want to word that. Mr. Lockett: Second. Mr. Bowles: We’ll take the substitute motion first. Madam Clerk. The Clerk: Who seconded? Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Lockett. The first one was Joe Jackson and Guilfoyle. Second was Mason and Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Mr. Chairman, could we have a roll call, please, sir? Mr. Bowles: Do I have to oblige? Mr. Lockett: It would be nice if you did. Mr. Bowles: All right, we’ll go with the roll call vote. The Clerk: Yes, sir. Okay, that was the substitute motion, correct? Okay, Mr. Bowles. Mr. Bowles: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Brigham. 17 Mr. Brigham: Which motion we voting on? The Clerk: It was the substitute motion to approve. Mr. Bowles: Reject the denial. Mr. Brigham: I didn’t favor the rejection. Mr. Bowles: I will take that as a no? Okay. Mr. Johnson: Something’s wrong with the motion. Mr. Mason: Jerry might know what he’s talking about. He might have changed his mind. Mr. Brigham: To reject the denial means that we’re going to approve the denial is what I’m saying. If this is the motion to reject the recommendation that’s on here then a no vote is a vote not to reject. Mr. Mason: That’s right. Mr. Brigham: I think I voted right. Mr. Mason: Absolutely. The Clerk: Okay, Mr. Guilfoyle. Mr. Guilfoyle: I’m not going to say anything. Mr. Lockett: This is getting more confusing as we go along. Mr. Bowles: Who’s on first? What’s on second? The motion on the floor is to reject the bid protest denial therefore accepting the bid protest. So if you want to accept the bid protest vote yes and accept the bid protest presented by Meritain. Or you can vote no and you’re accepting the BCBS bid. The Clerk: Mr. Guilfoyle, what was yours? Mr. Guilfoyle: No, ma’am. The Clerk: It was no? Okay. Mr. Hatney. Mr. Hatney: I’m fixing to (inaudible) so I’m not going to vote (inaudible). The Clerk: You’re just, your vote, you’re going to abstain then? Okay. Mr. Jackson. 18 Mr. Jackson: No. Mr. Johnson: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Mason. Mr. Mason: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith: No. Mr. Bowles, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lockett and Mr. Mason vote Yes. Mr. Brigham, Mr. Guilfoyle, Mr. Jackson and Mr. Smith vote No. Mr. Hatney abstains. Motion Fails 4-4-1. Mr. Bowles: Now the original motion. Madam Clerk. The Clerk: The original motion was to deny. Okay, Mr. Bowles. Mr. Bowles: No. The Clerk: Mr. Brigham. Mr. Brigham: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Guilfoyle. Mr. Guilfoyle: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Hatney. Mr. Hatney: Abstains. The Clerk: Mr. Jackson. Mr. Jackson: Yes. The Clerk: Mr. Johnson. 19 Mr. Johnson: No. The Clerk: Mr. Lockett. Mr. Lockett: No. The Clerk: Mr. Mason. Mr. Mason: No. The Clerk: Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith: Yes. Mr. Brigham, Mr. Guilfoyle, Mr. Jackson and Mr. Smith vote Yes. Mr. Bowles, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lockett and Mr. Mason vote No. Mr. Hatney abstains. Motion fails 4-4-1. Mr. Bowles: Item 29, Madam Clerk. The Clerk: ENGINEERING SERVICES 29. Approve proposal for Augusta Utilities to provide Water Operations and Lab Assistance to East Central Georgia Regional Hospital at Gracewood (Gracewood). Mr. Bowles: What’s your pleasure, gentlemen? Mr. Jackson: Move to approve. Mr. Smith: Second. Mr. Bowles: We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Please vote by your usual signal. Motion Passes 9-0. Mr. Bowles: I believe that gets us to Item 30. The Clerk: ENGINEERING SERVICES 30. Presentation by Ms. Gail Kelly regarding her sewer line tie-in. Mr. Bowles: Is Ms. Kelly here? Oh she is? Thank you. 20 Ms. Kelly: I’m Gail Kelly. I live at 3507 Monte Carlo Drive out of Pepperidge Subdivision. Two months ago I was having problems with my sewage line. I had a plumber come out there and correct the problem and everything. Come to find out I needed a tap location. So he asked me to go down to the water place on Wylds Road to ask for a tap location. And the lady I think her name is Susan told me that they don’t do tap locations they do as built. And I asked to have a camera to come out and look at what she called as built. She found out that I was not tapped into the city. Every house on that block were except for my house. So she sent some guys out and they pulled down everything and the clean out and found out I was tapped to my neighbor’s house which is illegal. Then she told me I had to pay to have a line drawn, pay to have a tap and pay to have (unintelligible) fixed because it’s not a city problem. I been living in this house 23 years (unintelligible) sewage tapped into sewage not tapped into my house. So they said as far as the tap I’ve been paying water and sewage I don’t have to pay for the tap but I had to pay for my line ran to the street and pay for the street to be replaced. And then Mr. Henderson said he’d waive the price for the street to be replaced. I still had to pay $800 to get the line from my house to the street which I don’t think is my problem. And I asked to leave it there. I said I can just clean my line out which I cleaned my line the water above my line was more problems which was not my problem. And I told them that I’ll just do my property leave the line there and they told me I couldn’t do that. I was illegal and I had to get the line replaced. I’ve been living there 23 years and if it was illegal than why didn’t they have it fixed in the beginning? When they ran the dye and everything it showed where they had ran me a tap when they built the house up under my driveway into the street. For some reason they blocked it off and ran me to the house next door. When I bought the house I thought I was tapped into the city and I’ve been having problems over the years and I know the problem was two months ago. Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Johnson then Commissioner Mason. Mr. Johnson: Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Ms. Kelly, it seems to be first and foremost is several issues going on here. The inspector who approved this plumbing should have saw that this had been illegally tapped and they should have not approved that at that particular time. I don’t know whether they took it out that it was approved and tied it into your neighbors or what. I do know in most cases whoever builds the home or the you know the contractor whoever they are responsible for making sure that those taps are in correctly. And that’s probably why they’re trying to say you’re responsible for it but I guess if, Tom, if you could let me ask you a question on this. Have anyone contacted you regarding this matter? Mr. Wiedmeier: No, I’ve not heard the details of this until just now. From what I understand we made a new tap for you and waived the tap we did not charge you for the new tap. Ms. Kelly: No, I had to pay for the line out to the street. Mr. Wiedmeier: Right but at first glance that would’ve been my recommendation that we provide her with a new tap at our expense but I would have to look at the circumstances. Ordinarily we would not reroute plumbing. 21 Mr. Johnson: Yeah and I understand the technicality of being able to you know well actually going on private property. I understand that. I think the concern is the developer probably well whoever inspected that should’ve caught that and knew that it was illegally tapped. And I think that’s where the concern is on our behalf just to kind of see exactly how we let this get through without it being caught in the process. So maybe look into that to see exactly. Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Mason. Mr. Mason: Well, I, this is out of my district and I’ve had conversations with her in reference to that. And I thought I brought it to Tom’s attention, I’m not sure. But in any case what I’d like to see done is clearly there’s some issues here that with the time that we have on the So I want to send this back to Commission today that we won’t be able to address. Engineering Services or is it more appropriate for you all to get together on a plan or path forward. Mr. Bowles: A combination of both for them to get with Ms. Kelly to get back to you at the next Engineering Committee. Mr. Mason: Yes. Mr. Bowles: I’ll second that. Mr. Mason: Okay. There we go. Mr. Bowles: I’ve got a motion to forward to Engineering Services Subcommittee Meeting and in the meantime for Mr. Wiedmeier and Mr. Russell to get with Ms. Kelly. Mr. Guilfoyle: So moved. Mr. Smith: Second. Mr. Bowles: All right. Got a motion and a second. Ya’ll vote by the usual sign. Motion Passes 9-0. Mr. Bowles: Everybody’s got somewhere to be tonight except for me so we’ll jump to item number 37. The Clerk: ADMINISTRATOR 37. Motion to approve Augusta-Richmond County Proposed FY 2013 Budget. Mr. Russell: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, members of the Commission, we presented a budget to you several weeks ago. We fine tuned that to some 22 degree. There’s been some conversation over the past couple days about the budget that we presented last week in which there’s been, there seems to be a movement to go ahead and take some of the things I put in there out and have some further discussion on them. If we pass the budget as presented minus the increase in the franchise fee, minus the increase in the COLA for the employees at this time which was not going to take effect until July anyway. And if we take the new positions out that were requested to allow us to have additional time to talk about those, I think that gets us to a point where the majority of you can agree on that. Yes, sir, Commissioner. Mr. Guilfoyle: You used the term franchise. Do you mean excise? Mr. Russell: Excise tax, yes, I said that wrong probably every other time I’ve said it. Mr. Guilfoyle: No problem. Mr. Russell: Yes, it’s the excise tax. With that being said that would move us, we’d end up with a balanced budget. We take that out of the make the adjustments to the fund balance that we’ve taken out that will give us a balanced budget and give us an opportunity to look at those ideas in more detail at the beginning of the year. If that’s acceptable that would be the motion that I would request. Mr. Guilfoyle: Fred, thank you for working with us. Motion to approve. Mr. Lockett: Second. Mr. Bowles: With those amendments. Mr. Russell: If I can, I’ve got one more thing. There are positions in the airport fund that I think are mandatory based on that and I’d like to exempt those as they have the dollars outside the general fund to do that. Mr. Guilfoyle: So moved. Mr. Lockett: Second. Mr. Russell: Thank you, Donna. Mr. Bowles: All right we’ve got a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Commissioner Lockett. Mr. Lockett: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Administrator. Mr. Russell: Yes, sir. Mr. Lockett: I want, for the record, are there any promotions or pay increases in this budget that haven’t been spelled out? 23 Mr. Russell: The only thing in there is a continuation of the recognition for agreements to not agreements but moving up the ladder as far as receiving certain certifications and those kinds of things that are there. Other than that a couple of the departments I’ve put in the additional dollars but that would be wiped out by the COLA that we would have. So, no, we would not be approving any additional raises based on that. Mr. Bowles: We’ve got a motion and a second. All vote by the usual sign. Mr. Russell: Just for the record that’s the first time the Commission has actually voted on one of my budget’s there affirmatively. I think we’ve made some progress. Mr. Lockett: At least turn over a new leaf. Mr. Russell: I think it was a mistake but that’s all right. We’ll take it. Thank you, gentlemen. Motion Passes 9-0. Mr. Bowles: Have fun in January fellas because ya’ll got to either make up your mind to raise taxes or cut expenses or both. And hopefully ya’ll can get six people to agree on one of the three options. Preferably cut expenses. Item 34, please, Madam Clerk. The Clerk: Thirty-five? Mr. Bowles: I missed one. The Clerk: ENGINEERING SERVICES 35. Discuss/approve storm water fee. (Requested by Commissioner Mason) Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Mason. Mr. Mason: Yes, Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. I uh, we’ve kind of talked this piece ad nauseum and at this point I don’t know where, we’re kind of missing one our integral persons. I don’t know if we’ve got the votes to move forward with this today as I’m trying to count up before I, I think if you can get Corey while I’m sitting here. Mr. Bowles: Corey? I think it Mr. Johnson: Well, yeah, I do agree with you, Commissioner Mason. probably would be best to maybe send this just probably send it back and then wait until everybody’s here and move forward on it. If that’s the case but I would be in tune if you want to do that I’ll second your motion then. 24 Mr. Mason: Well, that’s my motion. Mr. Johnson: Okay, I’ll second it. Mr. Hatney: What’s the motion? Mr. Bowles: Commissioner Brigham. Mr. Brigham: (inaudible). Mr. Bowles: We’ve got a motion and a second to send back to committee. Commissioner Brigham. Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor Pro Tem, as you well know we approved the doing of the inventory of all of this outlying structures that need to be in place. I see Mr. Ladson over there. I don’t think that inventory’s been completed yet has it, Mr. Ladson? Mr. Ladson: No, sir, it’s going on. Mr. Brigham: About how long will it take for it to be completed? Mr. Ladson: To inventory everything in the county it’s probably going to take a couple of years. Mr. Brigham: About a couple of years? Or at least a year? Mr. Ladson: It’s going to take about a couple of years. Mr. Brigham: And how are we going to set a fee until we know what we have to fix or not to fix. If we can’t complete the inventory, how are we going to set a fee, gentlemen? Mr. Mason: We’ll talk about it at committee. Mr. Bowles: (inaudible) we’re the government. Mr. Brigham: That’s what we’re going to do. Mr. Bowles: All right, any more discussion? And I’ll put my two cents on the rain water taxes as I like to call it. At least it taxes those that aren’t paying taxes already. So I do applaud that effort. We’ve got a motion to send it back to committee and a second. All vote by the usual sign. Motion Passes 9-0. Mr. Bowles: Do we have item number 36, Madam Clerk, or is that approved? 25 Mr. Bowles: All right, we stand adjourned. [MEETING ADJOURNED] Nancy W. Morawski Deputy Clerk of Commission CERTIFICATION: I, Lena J. Bonner, Clerk of Commission, hereby certify that the above is a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of The Augusta Richmond County Commission held on November 20, 2012. ______________________________ Clerk of Commission 26