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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-13-1999 Meeting I HISTORlC PRESERVATION SUBCOIYfNfITTEE COrvIMITTEE ROOM - September 13, 1999 3:30 p.m. PRESENT: B. Young, Mayor; S. Shepard, Chairman, F. Handy, B. Kuhlke, W. Mays, members, J. Brigham, R. Colclough, U. Bridges, Commissioners; R. Oliver, Administrator; J. Wall, Attorney; B. Halterman, HPC, B. Warlick, Summerville Neighborhood Assoc; L. Bonner, Clerk of Commission. ALSO PRESE~l: S. Cooper, Augusta Chronicle, S. Eidson, Metro Spirit. Mr. Shepard: We've had two meetings with the public in the neighborhoods that are affected. We have two items on our agenda: 1. Consider recommending to the full Commission technical changes in the Historic Preservation Ordinance. Mr. Kuhlke: I'm going to ask Willie and Freddie, in the Bethlehem meeting I didn't sense the enthusiasm of the historical pan of it as much as I did in the Summerville area. I mean I felt like there was more interest in clean up in the Bethlehem area than it was the historical part of it. I'm asking that question, because I don't know what you all felt from that meeting. I Mr. Mays: I think that you're right. I would be more inclined and this may be more work for you Jim. But to say what I said in Summerville and in Bethlehem, I think you have a situation there where the age of the city, I think requires that we serious.ly address the preservation question and we have some serious things there that we can protect. I think you probably, from a timing standpoint would be, and I'm not saying down the line it might not work to where a series of ordinances could be incorporated into something else and how you do that, I don't know. I think you probably need to try and deal separately and deal with that one. Because you have a question mark that's in there and I know, this may be getting off the subject a little bit, but we're talking about a first targeted area, revitalization in the inner city. Even though you're looking at one place in terms of Laney-Walker being first, but you have another situation in Bethlehem. I think what we're not seeing in that picture is that you have a lot of stuff in here that is old, but then again at least maybe if the targeted area, say if it was switched around, you were looking at Bethlehem as opposed to Laney- Walker right now, I think at least there would be some light at the end of the tunnel, because then you would be talking about some type of adoption <If investment not only from the city but of some private resources, state resources and other things. Right now that's not necessarily on the horizon. You've got basically what can be generated out of rehab, what some private owners Can do for themselves and basically an area that's still victim to a lot of different things that's unfortunate and people are caught in there. So, you have two different mind sets in there. I think what we are now caught in with the consolidated government is that things that were promised, a lot of people embraced the idea of the historic preservation in a lot of the older neighborhoods because they thought that there would be a move a decade or I more late and plenty of dollars short. But right now we've got to deal with it and unfortunately in a lot of those areas nothing came out Of any real significance in ways I that followed up the ordinances that were placed in. Some of those areas are basically in the same position, maybe a little worse off than when the ordinances were adopted. I think before we probably lose a court case and then we have nothing on the books. I think we should go ahead and close what we have so we'll know then what the intention is and it's basically solid in a given area that we've heard from and maybe try and deal with a little bit more input or try to maybe deal with a new thrust in the Bethlehem to see where we can go from there in terms of some different types of rehabilitation in that area. I think we need to go separate at least for the time being. Mr. Kuhlke: 1'd like to make a motion Nlr. Chairman that we ask the Attorney in conjunction with the Summerville Attorney to sit down and correct the technical difficulties that we have in the present ordinance and present it back to the Commission for approval at the next meeting, September 21. But stay specifically with Summerville then follow back up with the Bethlehem area on what we want,to do there. J\ilr. Handy: Second. Motion carried unanimously. 2. Consider the appointment of a Citizen Advisory Committee from the Summerville area to review the guidelines. Mr. Shepard: vVe heard from the people of the area that they wanted us to do something in terms of guideline review committee. What I was considering members of the Committee was that the representatives tram that area have a historic advisory committee for their guidelines in Summerville. My suggestion would be that the representatives who represent Summerviile be empo\vered to appoint that advisory committee and let that committee work on the guidelines. Let that be a representative committee from the speakers that came before us when we met in Summerville and perhaps some other people that identified their interest to me and perhaps to any of you. I Mr. Kuhlke: I would like to make a motion that Mr. Shepard and I be allowed to appoint that committee and the same hold true for Mr. Handy and Mr. Mays for the Bethlehem area and that we set a date that the committee bring back some information to this Committee by the end of November. Mr. Shepard: That would not need to go forward to the full Commission, that could stay within this Committee and we would keep the Committee organized for whatever we need to do. Mr. Handv: Second. Also. I would like to sav that it's alri!Zht for a studv to be .. . .I _ .I done separately, but I don't want to get away from a historical historic and I don't want Mr. Shepard and Mr. Kuhlke on that side and Willie and I on this side, we all should be I in one group, historic is historic. Motion carried una~imously. Le~a J. Bonner Clerk or Commission I SUMMERVILLE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SUB-COMMITTEE AGENDA COMMITTEE ROOM - September 13, 1999 3:30 P. M. I. Consider recommending to Commission technical changes in historic preservation ordinance as recommended by City Attorney. 2. Consider appointment of citizens advisory committee from Summerville area to review Summerville Historic Preservation guidelines. I I