HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOMMISSION MEETING June 2, 2009
REGULAR MEETING COMMISSION CHAMBER
JUNE 2, 2009
Augusta Richmond County Commission convened at 2:00 p.m., June 2, 2009, the Hon.
Deke Copenhaver, Mayor, presiding.
PRESENT: Hons. Holland, Smith, Mason, Grantham, Hatney, Beard, Johnson, Jackson,
Bowles and Brigham, members of Augusta Richmond County Commission.
The invocation was given by Father John Lyons, St. Joseph Catholic Church.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America was recited.
Mr. Mayor: Father, if you could come forward I have something for you. And I just
want to say I know on behalf of the Commission thank you for those most appropriate prayers
today. That was wonderful. Office of the Mayor. By these present be it known that Father John
Lyons, St. Joseph Catholic Church is Chaplain of the Day for his civic and spiritual guidance
demonstrated throughout the community. Serves as an example for all of the faith community.
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Given under my hand this 2 Day of June 2009.
Father Lyons: Thank you, sir. (APPLAUSE)
Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, on to the Delegation.
The Clerk:
DELEGATIONS
A. Mr. Anthony Esposito: RE: Regarding the enforcement of the Augusta Code relative to
the public nuisance ordinance and the state of Georgia’s property the former Georgia Golf
& Gardens located in the 110 block of Reynolds Street.
Mr. Mayor: And if you could keep it to five minutes, please, sir.
Mr. Esposito: The topic has changed slightly because of recent developments dealing
with the Georgia Golf Hall of Fame.
Mr. Mayor: Could you speak into the microphone?
Mr. Esposito: Is that good?
Mr. Mayor: Yeah, that’s better.
Mr. Esposito: All right. So I’m pretty much going to give an up to date with what’s
going on with 1100 Reynolds Street and then kind of propose a way to deal with this problem in
the future. As you can see I’ve got a little something here, a little math equation you’re familiar
with. The Georgia Hall and Fame plus state and budget cuts have been completely de-funded
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down to zero. That’s resulted in this. And that’s on Reynolds Street. And that’s looking
through the gate. So that’s the current state of the Georgia Golf and Gardens. I’ve got a group
of folks called Growing Augusta the Greenway, which is a volunteer group and what we want to
do is simply cut the grass this Saturday. We’ve got a bunch of folks with lawnmowers, with
electric trimmers that want to come out and cut the grass. That’s it, that’s all we’re looking to
do. Pull up some weeds. So I’ve been working for the past week with folks in Growing Augusta
the Greenway to get through the bureaucracy to do this. So what’s the holdup? The State
Properties Commission that technically owns the property because the States Property’s on
board, the Attorney General that yields the liability and right of entry, they’re on board. Augusta
state representative and senators and the Office of the Governor is on board and importantly and
most importantly the citizens of Augusta are on board. So why are we not yet allowed to go in
there and cut the grass on Saturday? The weeds are going to be there until the Georgia Golf Hall
& Fame simply calls a Board of Directors meeting. All they’ve got to do is a conference call.
They need six of the eleven folks. I’m not sure why that call isn’t occurring right now. I’ve
spoken to the Chairman I’ve spoken to everybody I can, the Governor’s office on down. Any
pressure you can apply on the Georgia Golf Hall & Fame, the Board of Directors is listed on
their website GGHF.org. I’m trying to get six of those folks together to simply give us
permission before they scare away more visitors and such. Here’s the thing I put in front of you.
It’s a little color thing. It says something like the unifying beautifying Augusta plan. The seat of
Georgia is not going to be cutting this grass any time soon. They have zero dollars; the
legislature does not meet again until January of next year I believe at the earliest. So the weeds
and grass are going to come back. What I think we do is take this blight on the city and it’s the
fault of the State of course and turn it into an opportunity. The opportunity is to use the
maintenance of the Golf and Gardens simply cutting the grass every other week is a way to build
the Augusta community by bringing folks together. The think I have in front of you is called the
Unifying Beautify Augusta Plan mostly because it rhymes. And what we want to do is each
Saturday, sorry every other Saturday have two districts team up. And you see in front of you the
listing of districts five and seven, one and eight, two and three and four and six. We don’t want,
we don’t need Commissioners out there with mowers. What we want to do is use the community
service groups in each of these districts. Be it citizens, volunteers to voluntarily on their
assigned date show up with mowers and equipment so we can simply cut the grass. This way
people throughout Augusta can get to come together, we take care of it the weeds don’t come
back because the State of Georgia is simply not going to take care of it. This is a way for
Augustans to come together to agree on something to build a sense of community and to get rid
of the blight that is sitting there in the heart of our city. We disagree on a lot of things but we all
in Augusta agree on one thing. It’s time to cut the grass and any support y’all can give to getting
it done this Saturday any support you can give to maintaining it throughout the summer would be
greatly appreciated. And that’s it.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Beard.
Ms. Beard: Mr. Mayor, I’d just like to thank him for bring this forward. I want you to
know I support it 100% and I would be willing to do anything I can in reference to it. And I’m
wondering if the city could at least work with the outside of the area. That also looks terrible.
But it’s an eyesore, it’s awful and, yes, I’ll be there for anything I can do.
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Mr. Esposito: Thank you. We’re trying to, people are supposed to be there Saturday
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June 6 at 8:15. Hopefully we’ll have permission by then. If not, we’re just going to be there
with the mowers and help another group of Augustans clean up a different part of, a slightly
different part of Augusta. So any support anybody wants to have for your influence for the
support votes, there are eleven of them throughout the state. I can’t imagine them not wanting to
get on the phone and for us to take care of this.
Mr. Mayor: Mr. Esposito, I want to thank you too. And just a little history lesson. In
2007 I dealt with the board for six months to put a lease in place and I dealt with all the
bureaucracy in order for the city to come in and take care it. So I know where you’re coming
from but I hope that a group of citizens really shows this support of the community. I would be
happy to help in any way possible.
Mr. Esposito: We greatly appreciate it. Thank y’all so much for your time.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Madam Clerk, on to the consent agenda.
The Clerk: Yes, sir, our consent agenda consists of items 1-9, items 1-9. If there are any
objectors to the following alcohol petition would you please signify your objection by raising
your hand. Mr. Sherman, on item one I think there was a correction as to the request for Sunday
sales from the applicant, from the petitioner. Is that correct?
Mr. Sherman: They requested Sunday sales. (inaudible).
The Clerk: Okay.
Item 1: Is to approve an application request for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer
& Wine license to be used in connection with The Marks Group, Rooster’s Beak located 215
Tenth Street.
Item 3: Is to deny a business license for failure to pay Inspection Fees: Sand Hill Grill,
Surrey Tavern and Racquets Restaurant & Sports Bar.
The Clerk: Are there any objectors to those petitions?
Mr. Speaker: Yes, ma’am. My name is Mike Allison. I’m with the Richmond County
Health Department. The Surrey Tavern, we’ve taken care of business with Surrey Tavern. This
is a problem we’ve been having with some folks that have not been paying their inspection fees
to the Health Department, which was approved by the Augusta Commission. However, we have
been working with Surrey Tavern and they underwent an ownership change and we would like to
take them off of this list. However, the Sand Hill Grill and Racquets Restaurant and Sport Bar
we would continue to ask that the business license be revoked or deny them a business license
for failure to pay their fees.
The Clerk: Our consent agenda consists of items 1-9.
Mr. Mayor: Do we have any additions to the consent agenda? Commissioner Brigham.
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Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I know that it’s an election but it the recommendation of the
Stoney Medical Society that we elect Dr. Elijah Lightfoot to the Board of Health. And if at all
possible I’d like to add that to the consent agenda.
The Clerk: Twenty-two.
Mr. Mayor: Is everybody okay with that?
Mr. Grantham: Number twenty-two.
Mr. Mayor: Twenty-two.
Mr. Mason: We’re supposed to vote, aren’t we?
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Smith.
Mr. Smith: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I’d like to add 19, 20 and 21 from Engineering
Services.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have any further additions to the consent agenda?
Commissioner Bowles.
FINANCE
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16. Receive as information 1 quarter 2009 Financial Reports.
Mr. Bowles: I’d like to add items 14, 15, 17, 18 and send 16 back to committee.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have any further additions to the consent agenda? Do we have
any items to be pulled for discussion? Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Jackson: (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Brigham.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I really have some questions about item #20. I see this as a re-
bid and I would be curious as to what kind of bid we had the first time and if we could get just a
few of the questions answered we might like to leave it on consent.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, do we have somebody to speak to item 20?
Mr. Speaker: Yes, sir.
Mr. Mayor: Drew, Mr. Brigham, Mr. Brigham, Drew.
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Mr. Brigham: Mr. Goins, good to see you. I’ve got a couple of questions for you. One, I
notice that we have a single bidder on item #20 and I also noticed this is a re-bid. And I also
noticed the bid was for more than the dollar amount. How many bids did we have the first time?
Mr. Goins: I don’t recall specifically but as I do recall the bids were considered non-
compliant for various reasons as deemed by the Procurement Department so it was re-bid. In
this case we had two bidders but we had one that was not compliant because he didn’t fill out the
paperwork and affidavits properly.
Mr. Brigham: Is this something we’re contracting out now?
Mr. Goins: This is a chemical that we get and we put our lines for root intrusion. It
retards the growth of roots in our systems.
Mr. Brigham: Okay, so this is a supplying of a chemical not actually putting the stuff in
the lines and everything.
Mr. Goins: Yes, that’s my understanding.
Mr. Brigham: I thought we were hiring a contractor from the way I read it. Okay, I still
don’t think it’s a good idea but I’ll let it say on consent and just vote against it.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, if we have no items to be pulled I’d look for a motion to approve the
consent agenda.
Mr. Grantham: Mr. Mayor?
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Grantham.
Mr. Grantham: Do we have Mr., #11 we, we’re talking about.
Mr. Mason: Well, it’s not on consent anyway.
Mr. Mayor: No, that’s not on the consent.
Mr. Grantham: It’s not on consent?
Mr. Mayor: No.
Mr. Grantham: I just wanted to make sure. 1-9 is all I want? Okay, thank you.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
Mr. Holland: Motion to approve.
Mr. Hatney: Second.
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CONSENT AGENDA
PUBLIC SERVICES
1. Motion to approve a New Application: A.N. 09-80: request by Jonathan Marks for an on
premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine license to be used in connection with The
Marks Group, LLC D/B/A Rooster’s Beak located at 215 Tenth St. There will be Sunday
Sales. District 1. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
2. Motion to approve an amendment no. 4 to senior nutrition cooperative agreement with
CSRA RDC. (Approved by Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
3. Motion to deny the following Business Licenses for failure to pay Inspection Fees: Sand
Hill Grill 2457 Wheeler Rd., Surrey Tavern 471 Highland Ave. and Racquets Restaurant &
Sports Bar 3206 West Wimbledon Dr. District 1, 3 & 7. Super Districts 9 & 10. (Approved
by Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
4. Motion to approve an Ordinance providing for the demolition of certain unsafe and
uninhabitable structures in the Turpin Hill Neighborhood: 910 Seventh Avenue, (District 2,
Super District 9); Laney-Walker Neighborhood: 1110 Perry Avenue, (District 2, Super
District 9); East Augusta Neighborhood: 2 Broad Street Extension (District 1, Super
District 9), 127 Capri Court, 129 Capri Court, (District 8, Super District 10); South
Augusta Neighborhood; 2237 Sullivan Road, (District 2, Super District 9), 1810 Tubman
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Home Road, (District 5, Super District 9); AND WAIVE 2 READING. (Approved by
Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
5. Motion to approve a request by Chiquita Jones for a Therapeutic Massage Operators
License to be used in connection with Muscle Restore Therapy, LLC located at 451 Broad
St. District 1. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
PUBLIC SAFETY
6. Motion to approve authorization of funds (56,951.00) for the Richmond County Sheriff’s
Office Multi-Jurisdictional K-9 Task Force. (Approved by Public Safety Committee May
26, 2009)
FINANCE
7. Motion to approve an Ordinance to amend Article 1, Section 2-5-5 of Chapter 5 of Title
II of the Augusta-Richmond County Code, called “Chapter 5 Theft Prevention”; to provide
clarity regarding the use of personal identification numbers for new and existing covered
accounts and; to provide an effective date; and for other purposes allowed by law.
(Approved by Commission May 19, 2009-second reading)
PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
8. Motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of the Commission held on May
19, 2009.
APPOINTMENTS
9. Motion to approve the appointment of Ms. Shirley Darby to ARC Coliseum Authority
due to the resignation of Mr. Charles Harris representing Super District 9.
FINANCE
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14. Approve the purchase of one portable vacuum/valve exerciser for Utilities Department
– Construction & Maintenance Division.
15. Consider a request from Mr. Edson T. Gray regarding a refund of taxes on property
located at 201 Ellis Street.
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16. Receive as information 1 quarter 2009 Financial Reports. (Referred back to Finance
Committee)
17. Approve the purchase of additional GPS tracking units and service subscription for
Augusta owned vehicles. This will complete the project of equipping all non-public safety
vehicles with GPS tracking units.
18. Motion re revise the approved Resolution authorizing the settlement of all claims
related to the real property of Patricia Pace located at 3416 Applejack Terrace, Augusta,
GA; an amendment by the attorney to change the amount to $42,888.20 to reflect an award
of costs to the City in the amount of $5,111.80 instead of ($6,117.53) in prior litigation that
was damaged; authorizing the City Administrator to disburse the amount of $42,888.20;
waiving Augusta-Richmond County Code of Ordinances sections in conflict for this
instance only; and for other purposes, which was approved by the Commission on May 19,
2009)
ENGINEERING SERVICES
19. Motion to approve CSX-613700 Facility Encroachment Agreement.
20. Approve funding in the amount not to exceed $100,000 to Duke’s Root Control, the
lowest responsive bidder, for the purpose of chemically treating the sewer lines against root
intrusion.
21. Motion to approve an Option for the purposes of acquiring a Right-of-Way between
George Victor Raley, Michael Dean Raley and Sally Harper Raley, as owners, and
Augusta, Georgia, as optionee, in connection with the Marvin Griffin Road Project, (1,846
sq. ft.) in fee, from property located at: 1621 Marvin Griffin Road, private, at the purchase
price of $1,400.00. Also granted is one temporary construction easement.
APPOINTMENTS
22. Consider the following recommendation from the Stoney Medical Society for the
appointment of one (1) to the Richmond County Board of Health Dr. Cal Brice, Dr. Eddie
P. Johnson, III and Dr. Elijah Lightfoot, Jr.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Commissioners will now vote by the usual
sign of voting.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I’d still like to be recorded as No on ---
The Clerk: I can’t hear you, Mr. Brigham.
Mr. Brigham: I’d still like to be recorded as No on item #20.
The Clerk: Twenty? Yes, sir.
Mr. Hatney abstains.
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Motion carries 9-1. [Item 1]
Mr. Brigham votes No.
Motion carries 9-1. [Item 11]
Motion carries 10-0. [Items 1-9, 14-22]
Mr. Mayor: And, Madam Clerk, on to the regular agenda.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
10. Approve a Resolution amending the Year 2008 Action Plan, approve projects to be
funded from CDBG-Recovery funds and authorize submission of Community Development
Block Grant – Recovery Act funds (CDBG-R) application to HUD in the amount of
$606,372.
Mr. Mayor: Yes, ma’am.
Ms. White: My name is Rose White. Mr. Wheeler is on vacation this week. And what
this item is the city is going to receive some additional Community Development Block Grant
funds as a result of the stimulus package by the new President. And it’s going to be
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$606,372.00. The notice came out May 5 and we’re required to have an application in by this
Friday which is 30-days. Normally we have to do a public hearing, give the citizens 30-days to
comment on the projects that we propose to fund but in the notice they shortened that comment
period to 7-days. So what we did we put it on the city’s website. They asked that, HUD asked
that we look at existing projects that we may have that will be ready to let for bid within 120-
days. The first one is Antioch Ministries and this is going to be what they called an incubator
and a community network center. During the year 2007 it was approved for a grant for
$100,000.00. They had $200,000.00. When they let the project for bid it came it at over
$600,000.00. So what we have done is at the last I believe April Admin Services we asked that
the CDBG money, normal CDBG money be reprogrammed and released to other projects so we
could fund this project from the Recovery Fund. Okay? This project is going to create 57 jobs.
The other project is demolition. What we’re going to do is, the city at least the department
acquired the Graystone Apartments located 19 Wrightsboro Road. We want to demolish those
apartments. In the development plan that Jesse Wilds has consulted as doing they haven’t
decided yet what’s going to go on that corner but it’s ready to be demolished, that particular
project. We had to relocate about four people I think from there. The other one is the Small
Business Development Recruitment. What we plan to do is give a loan to a business and it’s
more specifically it’s going to be for a laundromat in the Armstrong Galleria. Okay? And the
rest of it’s going to be used for administration of the grant.
Mr. Mayor: Do we have any questions?
Mr. Hatney: Move for approval.
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Mr. Smith: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and second. If there’s no further discussion
Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign.
Motion carries 10-0.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
11. Motion to approve a Resolution reclassifying the SPLOST Dover-Lyman Streets and
Drainage Infrastructure Project (Phase I) to a HOME Investment Partnership Program
(HOME) Project to be administered by the Housing and Community Development (HCD)
Department to satisfy HOME Findings issued by the Office of the Inspector General.
Ms. White: Okay, I start off with this particular one. During 2007 the Federal
government sent their auditors down and they were here to audit the HOME program. We
administered four programs in that department, HOME, CDBG, ESG and HOPWA. Since the
local Atlanta HUD office had given us so many findings they considered our program a weak
program. So they sent the Feds here. They looked at the years 2003-2207. That was the prior
director’s term who is no longer with us. They came up with a number of findings and
recommendations and what it totaled to is $1.2 million dollars that they say the city has to repay.
What we had to do was Mr. Wheeler met with Ms. Pressley who is the director of HUD in
Atlanta. We took a list of SPLOST projects, which are non-federal funds. They looked over the
list for a viable project to use instead of having the city to repay this money. Since we already
had a CDBG project for Dover-Lyman Infrastructure for $200,000 we knew that the city had a
$2 million Dover-Lyman Infrastructure project in Engineering. So all we’re asking to do is
reclassify that project to a CDBG project so it can be administered by the department and that
will prevent the city from having to pay $1.2 million dollars.
Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mayor Pro Tem.
Mr. Mason: Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. A couple of questions here. I kind of see what
she’s saying here in the backup information. In reference to the audit, now you said there was a
total of $1.2 million that they decided that the City of Augusta needed to pay back. Is that
correct?
Ms. White: That’s correct.
Mr. Mason: Okay, you also said there is a list of SPLOST projects that was looked at to
determine what could fit the bill. Do you know how many projects were on that list?
Ms. White: Oh, there was a number of projects. I don’t know exactly how many.
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Mr. Mason: Okay, well, I guess the point I’m trying to get to is that how did you make
the determination that this particular project would be the one to move forward to receive these
dollars versus any other projects that were on the list?
Ms. White: I hate to say this but I can’t answer that question. I don’t know.
Mr. Mason: That’s a very important question for me. I’m not saying it’s not a good
project but I mean I think we talked, even talked about it the other day. I mean it would have
been nice for us to see the projects so that we could make a determination along with you or
maybe even a recommendation of what project would be best suited for that particular funding.
Because as I’m looking at this, this is telling me that the total project is about $5.2 million
dollars. Now given the knowledge that we have here that $2 million was already reprogrammed
already for this project okay? And so that means that we received some additional monies that it
wasn’t to have before. So what I’m trying to figure out to ensure fairness, what about the other
projects and did they get a fair opportunity to receive perhaps some additional financing as well.
I’m not saying this is a bad project but that’s my question. So I have that concern about the other
lists and what projects are those and I certainly didn’t get an opportunity to see those to try to
determine if that would be a great thing or not. And I know you’re not Chester Wheeler but
that’s an important question for me.
Ms. White: Okay, we’ll take that back to him and let him know. Because you know I
really don’t know. I know over the last five years we have at least, commission, certain
commissioners have wanted us to focus in that particular area.
Mr. Mason: Now ---
Ms. White: But I don’t know, I don’t know if that’s the reason or not.
Mr. Mason: Let’s just wait.
Mr. Mayor: And I’ll go Commissioner Beard, then Commissioner Smith, then
Commissioner Grantham in the order I saw the hands and then Commissioner Holland.
Ms. Beard: Mr. Mayor ---
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Beard.
Ms. Beard: --- I’d like to say that I supported this project since its inception. And one
reason is because it’s one of the first major, major rebuilding projects that we have had and it
started others for the City of Augusta. And with that in mind I’d like to move for approval of
this.
Mr. Smith: Second.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we have a motion and second. Commissioner Smith.
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Mr. Smith: Yes, I wanted to elaborate on it a little bit. This is something we’ve been
working on for about 5 years out there so. Duplexes that were put up in the 1940’s and where
much of the riffraff have located with drugs and crime and prostitution, gunfire, our church is
right across the street from it and it’s nothing usual to hear gunfire at night over there. And so
the Alleluia Community that lives behind there has come in and offered to help and we formed a
South Augusta Redevelopment Committee to try to help redevelop that complete corridor but
most especially Lyman and Dover Streets. And it is a desperate need that we go on. And there’s
been money taken from this project early on and we’re trying to build it back up to the place
where we can go ahead with the project.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Commissioner Smith. Commissioner Grantham, then
Commissioner Holland.
Mr. Grantham: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And like my colleague I feel like this is a good
program. But I think in the past, Ms. White, I believe I’m correct in saying this, that on any
reprogramming of funds whether it be CDBG money or whether it be any other type of funds,
Mr. Administrator, that I think it would be wise to advise the Commissioners with a list of those
that are being reprogrammed to as well as those that are coming from giving us an opportunity to
know what we’re looking at when we come in here.
Ms. White: Okay.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Holland.
Mr. Holland: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. In reading the information in the back where it
says “Reclassifying” I’m wondering if we didn’t have Mr. Abie Ladson could give us some
information pertaining to this particular agenda item since we’re talking about infrastructure and
it’s under the Engineering Department. I know exactly what they’re talking about this particular
area, this is an infested area with drugs. However you know we need to take under consideration
that there are some other areas that perhaps may be in need for some of these funds. I believe
this projects needs to go forward because we have been talking about it for some time. And of
course we’ve already approved some funds for this project some time ago. I think approximately
about $3 million dollars. So we’re in the process now of adding more to it so we either need to
move this project forward or either find out if there’s some other projects that can use some of
these funds that’s been allocated for this project.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
Mr. Holland: I support the project, you know, 100% but I just want to be fair as some of
the other Commissioners say we want to be fair in terms of allocating these funds.
Mr. Mayor: Okay and I, did you want to hear from Mr. Ladson?
Mr. Holland: Yes, sir. Is Abie here?
The Clerk: Yes.
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Mr. Holland: Okay.
Mr. Mayor: And then we’ll go Commissioner Brigham, Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Ladson: The understanding that I have with the agenda item here is that the basically
the funds will actually go under HUD but we will actually still be managing the infrastructure
through design and construction. That way the city doesn’t lose the $1.3 million dollars. That’s
my understanding of that.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, thank you and Commissioner Brigham.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, while I support this project and I think it’s a good project I
have a more serious question. I don’t understand how we can take SPLOST dollars and repay
the federal government. And I’d like to hear from the Attorney how that can happen because
that don’t seem like it’s an appropriate expenditure of capital improvement dollars to me.
Mr. Russell: If I can what the word “reclassification” is probably what’s throwing
everybody off in this particular case. What you’ve got is the same project that’s going to be
done. It’s going to be managed through HUD to cover those dollars as opposed to the same
work going to be done. And what they’re doing is allowing us to count that towards what they
thought after a great deal of discussion was the money that needed to be repaid. We’re still
doing the same project we’re just reclassifying the management covered under Housing and
Development as opposed to our normal process. But the same work’s going to be done just the
format will be changed to cover their request that we be able to do that as a match or as through
their process.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, that might be an answer but it certainly is not a correct
answer. I understand the management is it’s our management we’re spending dollars that we
have now but I don’t, what my problem is I don’t see how we move from SPLOST dollars to
HUD dollars. I don’t see a debt, I don’t see a bonded indebtedness that we’re paying off, I don’t
see us buying any concrete, I don’t see us buying any bricks and I think it’s illegal and I want the
Attorney to tell me it’s not illegal. Now I have had him do that.
Mr. Brown: Commissioner Brigham, what at this time what is known about the housing
the home investment partnership program is not enough to render an opinion at this time as to
whether or not it would be abolished in a SPLOST fund. When this matter came to my attention
late yesterday I did put in a call first thing this morning to Mr. Wheeler. I was not informed that
he was out of town. Therefore I have not been able to have an opportunity it discuss the nature
of the program that he has. So we cannot render an opinion but SPLOST money must be used
for qualified SPLOST activities.
Mr. Brigham: I don’t see why it’s even on our agenda.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Jackson, Commissioner Johnson, Commissioner Beard
then Commissioner Hatney.
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Mr. Jackson: I’d like to see this go back to the committee and we can have a
discussion with Mr. Wheeler.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, would you like to put that in the form of a substitute motion?
The Clerk: We don’t have a motion.
Mr. Grantham: Betty made the motion.
Mr. Mayor: What’s that?
The Clerk: Who approved it?
Mr. Grantham: Jimmy did.
The Clerk: I was out?
Mr. Mayor: Yeah.
The Clerk: Oh, okay.
Mr. Mayor: So would you like to put that in the form of a substitute motion?
Mr. Jackson: Yes.
Mr. Hatney: Second.
Ms. Beard: Mr. Mayor?
Mr. Mayor: And we have a second? Okay. Ms. Beard.
Ms. Beard: Actually I spoke with Mr. Wheeler about this and he said what it is the,
something was done wrong before he arrived in Augusta. And now they are charging us.
They’re saying we owe them 1.some million. At this point and ordinarily we would pull it from
our general fund. So to keep from doing that he went to Atlanta spoke with them and they said
yes we will allow you to use the Lyman-Dover Street project in reference to that. So what this is
doing it’s saving us 1.some million dollars that we would have to pay from the general fund.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Hatney.
Mr. Hatney: And I appreciate that but my difficulty here and I don’t have no problem
with the project. I’ll say that up front. But my difficulty here is that when you say reclassified.
There’s a great difference here saying reclassified and reprogramming. So I’m not sure which
we are really trying to do. And due to the fact that we can’t get a positive legal opinion if it were
my suggestion we send it back to Committee so we can get that cleared up.
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Mr. Mayor: Okay ---
Mr. Hatney: As long as it’s been moved and seconded.
Mr. Mayor: Yes, sir.
Mr. Attorney: We don’t have a problem with you all taking it back and from a legal
standpoint and you all are having a discussion on that. What I wanted to do was just kind of add
a little light. Just kind of second what Commissioner Smith as well as well as Commissioner
Grantham indicated as it related to that Dover-Lyman area as a whole. We actually, currently we
have a commitment from two community housing development organizations as well as non-
profits. They’re currently actually working in that area. They’re dedicated to that area. We’re
actually moving forward to signing final agreements with two non-profits to be able to kind of
retrofit or reconstruct those duplexes as is. Currently we have one non-profit who’s actually
going out on their own. They’ve actually acquired, they actually own three duplexes already in
that area. And actually would like to say we’re working with another one in that area. So this is
a commitment of our department. We are aware of the infestation and we’re dedicated to that
area. So as it relates to this issue of reclassifying I mean I’ll kind of hold back on that but I did
want to just kind of add that light to it.
Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Commissioner Hatney.
Mr. Hatney: We’re committed to the project also but the thing that we’ve got to be
cautious of is that whether or not it’s actually legal to go from SPLOST to HUD and back. We
don’t know that so I can’t vote for it. Not until I know that you know.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we have a motion and a second to forward this back to the committee.
Madam Clerk, if you could read the ---
The Clerk: The motion was to refer this back to committee.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
The Clerk: The next one is that, the next one. Okay.
Mr. Mayor: We have a substitute motion and a second. If there’s no further discussion
Commissioners will now vote by the substitute sign of voting.
Mr. Smith votes No.
Ms. Beard abstains.
Motion carries 8-1-1.
The Clerk: Move forward?
Mr. Mayor: Please.
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The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
12. Motion to approve Department of Transportation (DOT) and Federal Transit
Administration (FTA) changes in regulations on Substance Abuse Testing.
Mr. Bowles: Motion to approve.
Mr. Brigham: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion?
Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign of voting.
Motion carries 10-0.
The Clerk:
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
13. Motion to approve a request to transfer title to Promise Land Community
Development.
Ms. Beard: Motion to approve.
Mr. Brigham: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion?
Commissioners will now vote by the usual sign.
Motion carries 10-0.
The Clerk:
OTHER BUSINESS
23. Discuss the TEE Center. (Requested by Commissioner Joe Jackson)
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Jackson.
Mr. Jackson: Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I put this back on the agenda for the
mere fact that I stayed for the Committee meetings last week and I felt in my heart that we need
to have an open discussion about it. And that’s why I asked to put it back on the agenda.
There’s been some dialogue between the Commissioners, the Administrator and the Mayor so if
Mr. Russell has something of the Mayor has something or the Super Districts have something, its
just information. And I think it’s time we move along and take the next step. So that’s the
reason why I put it on the agenda.
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Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Commissioner Jackson. I’d just say, however we discuss it as
long as we do it calmly and do it in a business like fashion I’m fine with that. We’ll see what
comes of it. Mr. Russell. I believe, Commissioner Hatney, you had your hand up.
Mr. Hatney: He’s got something. Let me see what he’s got. I’m not going to get ahead
of you.
Mr. Russell: Thank you for the opportunity to be back again and talk about this. As you
know the dialogue has been going on for the last several weeks. There’s some people that might
not be familiar with our process that it seems a little bit scary to some people in the fact that there
has been a dialogue. In the fact that you know the initial plan that was presented was not
immediately embraced. If that had happened I probably would’ve been the most surprised
person in the room because the purpose of those plans is simply to begin that conversation to put
forth things that I was directed to do as a staff person to try to bring you a deal that, or an
opportunity in a program that I thought and the staff thought was a way to move forward.
Obviously without garnering enough votes to make that happen we’ve been working diligently
for the past several weeks to try and put together a plan or a program that would garner the
majority of the support of the people here on the Commission. We’ve got several tough objects
that we’re dealing with in this particular point and what we asked for before was some fairly
aggressive and fairly new concepts that might have been approached without my ability to
actually articulate those as well as I should. What we’ve attempted to do in this particular
situation is to give you the opportunity to give us some direction to continue to move forward but
continue to bring back and more concise and more specific detail the items that are necessary to
get both these projects done in my mind and get bricks on the ground and get house built there.
As you know at some length we’ve talked about the TEE Center. We’ve shown you pictures of
what we thought it should be. We showed you pictures of the concept diagrams and the ability
to use the warehouse and move forward with that. The first item to keep us continually moving
towards that when we selected the architects several months ago we talked about the funding of
that and the potential issues that were involved with the funding. What we would like to do is go
ahead and authorize the architects to move forward with the next phase of the plan, which is the
schematic design for the TEE Center. We’ve got the concept there we’ve got the location of the
scope to build and now we continue to move forward with that we need to bring those designs to
the next phase and that would be the schematic design for that. In addition to that parking is
always an issue. We’d like instead of trying to build a parking deck as I initially proposed that
we have authority to go ahead and look at the parking in that particular area and determine and
bring back to you what would be the best opportunity to provide parking for that facility and
look at that in a way that would not tie us in to a specific solution but give you several solutions
to look at that might be more compatible to your feelings at this particular moment. In addition
to that we’ve been working diligently with the operator based on the new financing scheme that
were presented to present changes in the original agreement for your approval on the operation
of that. As you know several, initially two years ago we talked about a 50-year term that
matched the Convention Center term that we have now. Due to the funding streams we have
available we’ve been able to move that down to a 15-year term. There are other details there that
need to be worked out that we had numerous discussions about over the past several months.
But what we’d like to do is go ahead and firm that up and bring you a contract for your approval
at this particular point in time. I felt a little bit unsure of myself moving forward without some
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additional direction as we looked at the entire package. But once again that would be a contract
that would be brought back for your approval in its entirety. We do need to purchase the land.
Decisions have been made on the location of the facility based on a long list of reasons for that in
which we’ve gone over in infinitum over the past several months but we do need to go ahead and
do that. And we would like to be able to go ahead with the purchase of that property and bring
that purchase agreement back to you for your final approval again. Once again that’s been the
mechanism we’ve used in the past as an authorization to negotiate. We’ve had preliminary
conversations, we feel like we’re moving forward with that but I need the authority to bring you
back the final document with a price and a cost so you can vote that up or down. Because of the
way the funding worked out as we’ve talked about we’ve hired the architect several months ago.
There was concern about whether or not we’d be able to build a facility for the money that we
had available. The numbers floated then were a lot higher than the ones you’re looking at now.
The architect as I’ve said before has done a great job of bringing that down to something that we
think, I think we can afford with the numbers that we’ve got there. That would include the
issuance of a $9 million dollar taxes and bonds for the TEE Center for the total project cost of up
to $138 million dollars. And I say that up to $138 million dollars because we’ve got a pretty
good track record of bringing you projects under cost, within budget and on time so that we
would like that opportunity again and I don’t want a final figure there basically. That would
require the use of some additional dollars that are available to us currently because we have
been, I don’t want to say miserly but we’ve been very cautious with spending the taxpayers
dollars in these cases. We’ve got interests, savings and excess collections that would make up
the balance of that to give us a total of $48 million dollars. A part of what I presented initially
was a new bonding authority that was not well received. After a great deal of research we
decided that using the Coliseum Authority that you have just recently helped revamp as the
bonding source for these particular dollars would be an appropriate way to do that. In addition to
that part of the discussion has always been the bonding of additional dollars for the Laney
Walker/Bethlehem redevelopment area. As you know we’ve moved forward with that project
and have got plans on the table and houses being built as we spoke with the money allocated
through the initial fee collected from the hotel/motel fee for the historic development there.
What we want to do is continue to do that and we all realize that spending those dollars on a year
to year basis over that period of time would not have the kind of impact that we would want in
that community. We’d be doing piecemeal improvements and none of us would be alive to see
the realization of that and that’s not acceptable. What we’d like to do in that particular case go
ahead and use that funding stream to bond $9 million dollars of bonds. In the first phase over a
ten year period we’d like to look at the balance of those phases to the $37.5 million dollar
commitment that was made originally by this Commission and what we’d like to do is use that as
a jump start and bring back to you a phased in plan to get that money on the ground and rolling
within a 10/11 year period as we talked about before so that we can get that money moving to
reap the rewards of that kind of expenditure in that particular community. So that would be item
six that we’re looking at. Once again my initial presentation was to allow the separate, a
different authority to do that. The bottom line with that was once again that was not well
received and what we would end up having to do was expand the Downtown Development
Authority, which is appointed by you and invest with Urban Redevelopment Authority powers to
let them do that. Once again that’s a group you appoint people to that’s a group that should
listen to your will in those areas and they would be there for the funding of that particular thing.
We do want to make sure we keep that process on track. We do need to make sure we do that in
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a timely fashion. So part of that bonding with my mind would be the development of a detailed
timeline. For those of you have been to the community meetings I think the community is
excited about these projects. I think we’ve got things that are rolling along fairly well. With the
results that have come in we’ve got a good road map on how to get there and what we’re trying
to do is put gas in the car to make sure we can accomplish the travel down that road that we’ve
already established for ourselves. So we would need the authorization to develop a detailed
timeline and implementation of the expenditures of these Phase I funds and bring with you that
Phase II and three funds over a short period of time. And we’ve talked about ten years to get that
done and move forward with that. To do that in addition to there’s several other housekeeping
matters that we have to do. What we’re looking at is the bonding/funding stream for the TEE
Center with the reallocation of the dollars currently being used to pay off the bonds at the
Coliseum Authority. Those dollars are coming in at approximately $1 million dollars a year are
being used to pay off those bonds. That funding stream is currently there through the hotel/motel
tax and what recommendation was and still would be is we use that funding stream upon the
completion of the bonds for the Coliseum Authority. Those are paid off next year so we would
not be taking money away from them that they’ve used in the operational needs. And for those
of you who have been following that I know they’ve actually turned a profit last month. So
we’re excited about those potentials as that continues to grow. But it would not take away from
those dollars that have been designated for the operational needs but simply take the money
that’s paying off their bonds and reuse that to pay off the additional bonds of the TEE Center.
As we’ve looked at this all along we’ve worked with Smith-Gambrel, and Kilpatrick-Stockton as
the bond counsel but we would need your authorization to actually hire them as we’ve gone
forward with that. As we’ve talked on several occasions they are the group, two groups that
have been recommended by our Financial Advisor Diane McNabb and we would think they
would be appropriate to move forward with this because of the complexity of the issues that
we’ve got involved with us there. And that would be my recommendation that we do that. What
you’ve got here is a plan of action one that brings back those crucial issues to you for your
approval as we’ve talked about in the past. And it gets us moving a step closer, several steps
closer I think of accomplishing both these projects in a measured way to make sure we take
advantage of the economy’s that are going on right now. Some of that’s good for building. That
we take advantage of the opportunities that we have in the Laney-Walker neighborhood as we
continue to move people into those opportunities there and as we continue to take advantage of
the other growth that’s going on surrounding that. So after a great deal of discussion there’s
been a great deal of tweaking a great deal angst a great deal of wringing of hands on some
occasion and that’s part of the Democratic process, and a lot of occasions that most people never
see. And that’s where Commissioner Jackson, Commissioner Johnson and numerous of you
have, we’ve had conversation with Commissioner Holland over the past little while to get us to
this particular point. It does not write anything in stone it does not continue to you know, it does
not take away your ability to modify the plan as we go forward but it does take us to next level as
we continue to work towards these two projects. I’d be happy to try to respond to any questions
you might have.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Hatney, then Commissioner Grantham.
Mr. Hatney: First of all, Mr. Administrator, I’d like to make a point then I’d like to ask
you two questions please. First point being that one of the things that concerns me over the last
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I’d say month was that the media and some other folk were continuing to say that without that
vote the TEE Center is dead. And that was insulting because that’s not true. First of all the
money that the voters voted on it’s been in the bank about three years now?
Mr. Russell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Hatney: So it’s never been dead not when the money is already in the bank. It just
makes folks who don’t agree with a certain process look like they’re trying to block progress
when that’s really not the case at all. So that’s the statement I’d like to make is that the TEE
Center money has been in the bank long enough to have accrued quite a bit of monies. Isn’t that
right, Mr. Administrator?
Mr. Russell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Hatney: So somebody should have said that the TEE Center isn’t dead from this
administration but it never came. I didn’t hear it. And so folks kept at us immediately he’s
talking about building the TEE Center and the TEE Center’s money has been in the bank. But
the other question I wanted to ask was why is it so urgent that we do it 30 days ago when we had
the money in the bank for three years and it wasn’t so urgent. That concerns me. And the other
thing is that they say that we still, that I’m still kind of confused with after the process of funding
the Laney-Walker/Bethlehem project. I’ve heard many times that the TEE Center and Laney-
Walker/Bethlehem project are tied together at the hip. But the TEE Center got almost $30
million dollars in the bank and the Laney-Walker/Bethlehem aint got none. So they can’t be tied
together at the hip unless y’all give us some of that money. So these things have been thrown
out there and it doesn’t give you a good feeling when you know folk aint telling the whole story.
So what I would like to ask you to do before I’d be comfortable with this is that find what, we
need to know what you’re planning on paying for the land as opposed to what the tax amount of
it is. We need to know all these questions you know because we definitely don’t want to be
giving away taxpayer’s money in areas where we shouldn’t be doing it but particularly don’t
have to do it. Because these are critical times and we’ve got to be careful. We don’t know
what’s going to happen in the fall. We don’t know what we’re going to have to do to balance the
budget and the first proposal when it came back that proposal went up to around $70 million
dollars and that would’ve been crazy to vote on that and turn around in November and talk about
laying off two/three hundred people. Nobody said that and I voted No on what they’re going to
have to do. So the whole thing to me the timing was kind of bad. And I’m not fussing at you
I’m just stating what I believe or how I feel. The TEE Center was never in harms way and what
nobody in the Administration would say that to the general public that the TEE Center money
was in the bank and it was never in harms way. There was a $44 million dollar bond deal made,
twenty of them went for the TEE Center the other twenty-four went for Webster Detention
Center but that was not said. I didn’t hear that nowhere. But all I could hear was y’all done
killed the TEE Center and that was never true. And that’s kind of painful when you know things
aint true but that’s all you hear. And that’s my concern and I do think though for us, before you
ask us to vote on this that we know exactly what you’re going to pay for the land. I need to
know that, personally. I don’t know about nobody else but I need to know what the land is going
to be but what you’re talking about paying for the land or according to the taxed amount. That
would make a big difference whether I would agree with what you’re paying for the land. So
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these are the things that concern me. And the other thing I want to ask, Mr. Mayor, is that when
I hear when you say you’re talking about the bonding for the Laney-Walker/Bethlehem you’ve
got $9 million taxable and tax exempt fining and I haven’t seen that in no other project but this
one. But those are my concerns.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
Mr. Russell: I’d like to attempt to respond to those in order that you asked because I too
felt the same frustration as we went through this process when people said the TEE Center was
dead. And I have said on numerous occasions that neither nor Laney-Walker was dead in these
particular process but I have not presented a plan that’s been able to be accepted yet. And I
believe that was the issue that was there and that’s what I said publicly, privately and
continuously and unfortunately the press and whoever and the people who listen hear what they
want to hear a lot of time. But I have said that on numerous occasions that I do agree that
nobody has every told me that any of this is dead. What I’ve heard somewhat resounded is we
didn’t like your first plan and that happened more than once as we go forward with that. What
I’m asking for you today to actually, what I’m asking for is exactly what you said sir is the
opportunity to move forward and deal with these people so that I can bring you back those
numbers for your approval. We’ve had preliminary conversations I don’t feel like I’m
authorized to actually negotiate a number figure until somebody until you tell me that. And until
that happens I’ve been sort of waiting on that. But I’ve asked for today or what I’ve asked for in
this is the opportunity to do exactly what you want, bring back the numbers that are going to be
available, bring back what they want for the property what I’ve been able to negotiate bring back
those kinds of things that you need to be able to make a rational decision. But until granted that
authority I didn’t really have any place to stand as I negotiated. If you were say do these nine
things today I think that gets us to that point where you can have the information you need to
make rational decisions about A, B, C and D as we go forward. So I agree with you fully on
that. The other issue that you raised on the taxable and tax exempt, part of that is the funding
issue on the money that we would have. It’s not that we would pay tax on that. It’s just the
mechanism of how that’s set up and I will have to get Diane to explain to you. That’s above my
real understanding.
Mr. Mayor: I agree.
Mr. Russell: I’d be happy to get that back to you.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, you had one more question and then I’ve got Commissioner Bowles.
Mr. Hatney: That’s all I’m going to ask.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Bowles and the Commissioner Grantham.
Mr. Bowles: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Well, if that’s all you’re looking for then I’d say
we just need to give you direction to go talk to the land owners and come back with a package to
us. There’s no sense in trying to plan a TEE Center when we don’t know what the acquisition
costs are going to be or we don’t even have a contract with the personnel involved. So until we
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get those things and have complete package you know I’d say that we need to make a
recommendation that you go out and come back and present that package with land costs and a
contract with the Riverfront Partners.
Mr. Russell: And my concern with that is that that’s true, that’s what I want but I want to
be able to do all that in concert with the Laney-Walker action too. Because I think we need to
make sure we’re ready to move on all those projects as we go forward. And what I’m looking at
is a scheme of things that get us to that point there. I’d love to be able to come back to you and
say you know here’s what we negotiated on the contract, here’s the bonding source for the
Laney-Walker project that we’ve got available to us. We’ve got the funding set up. Here’s the
legislation you need to change the hotel/motel tax from the, that million from the Coliseum to
that. And those nine steps I think make a giant leap towards getting both these projects done.
And maybe ---
Mr. Bowles: I make a motion that you do that and come back to us.
Mr. Mayor: Do what?
Mr. Bowles: What he just said. All the nine steps and come back and tell us, give us, I
mean, we can’t vote on something if we don’t know what it’s going to cost.
Mr. Mayor: You’re moving to approve those nine steps?
Mr. Bowles: No, for the Administrator to go out and come back with a plan for us on the
cost of the TEE Center so we can implement it.
Mr. Mayor: But ---
Mr. Bowles: They have the plan for Laney-Walker ---
Mr. Mayor: But contingent upon the fact that we still have to approve the, you know
what the real estate transaction’s going to be. The Commission reserves the right to approve all
real estate.
Mr. Bowles: Yeah, if he comes back to us.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion. Is there a second on that?
Mr. Grantham: Second.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
Mr. Russell: I think that’s where we get in trouble and I appreciate what you’re saying
because I appreciate the desire to move forward. But I need, we need ---
Mr. Grantham: Some direction.
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Mr. Russell: --- to have some continuing dialogue here to where I don’t myself in trouble
by running off on a tangent thinking I’m doing what you want when I’m not. I think you know
and I hate to trespass on your time but we need, in my mind we need, I need to make sure that
we’re all going in the same direction here. And that’s just for my own sanity at the moment I
believe.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Grantham, then Commissioner Hatney, then
Commissioner Mason, then Commissioner Holland.
Mr. Grantham: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Fred, I appreciate what you’re doing in trying to
get these things in line and put them in step which is very important in order to do some type of
contractual arrangements similar to what we’re working on with the TEE Center and the Laney-
Walker/Bethlehem projects. A couple of questions that I have and some of the things that I
would point out to you as well as to the Commissioners is that in the initial recommendation that
you’ve made you indicated in every one of these particular areas that you would bring us back
for Commission approval. Everything is subject to Commission approval. What you’re asking
for is the permission and the authority to go forward to bring us those particular items as you
negotiate them, as you develop them as you see that they would fit within the parameters of what
we’re giving you now and then bring that back to us along those lines. However I see a couple
of things that I’d like for you to include. And one is that I would like to see the completion of
the operator contract prior to any funding of any projects to be done. And I think that gives us a
financial responsibility as well as one that we know we have contracts in place to manage this
before we go out and start bonding these projects. And the other thing is that we have had some
discussion, different people have and I’ve talked to this various Commissioners about this that in
using the Coliseum Authority to bond the $9 million dollars tax exempt part for the TEE Center
that that be listed as a financial conduit only. And that they not be in any type of management
role and type of direction for construction any type of supervision over what you and this
Commission would be doing at that time. So you know with that in mind I feel like that we’re
heading in the right direction. This is the time we’ve had some good dialogue and I think the
information presented to us gives us an opportunity to give you this authorization and to move
forward as far as bring us back the type of package that we need to go forward with Laney-
Walker/Bethlehem and the TEE Center.
Mr. Mayor: Okay. Commissioner Hatney.
Mr. Hatney: The other question I would ask is you mentioned a lot of things that even
when you got to Laney-Walker you talked about the initial $9 million but there’s no timeline. If
all of that had been included in this it might of made a difference because you’re talking about
ten years but the last one we saw was twenty.
Mr. Russell: Right.
Mr. Hatney: You understand what I’m saying? There’s a big difference there.
Mr. Russell: If you’d like to adjust that ---
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Mr. Hatney: Some stuff has to be, if you, whatever you propose that you want done. I
don’t know about the rest of you folks but I need to be able to vote with good conscience on
anything. If I don’t know what you’re paying for the land, I don’t know what you’re doing it’s
hard for me manage that because you know money can get funny. If money don’t have a
specific direction up front you know well you say I can find money you know all we’re talking
about stuff that’s going to get us where we need to be. We don’t wait for twenty years to get the
Laney-Walker project done.
Mr. Russell: I agree.
Mr. Hatney: That’s just the way that is. And with your and let me say this. I’m not
trying to be funny. You were authorized two or three years ago to go forward and find funding
for these things, you were. And to come back with proposals and all, oh yeah you were but you
didn’t do it. Okay.
Mr. Mayor: Okay. Commissioner Mason.
Mr. Mason: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. We started off the conversation saying this was a
discussion and by the time we got to the third person we already had a vote on the table, or a
least say a motion. I’m not really sure where we’re going with this thing but we’re moving at
warp speed. And the question still has not been answered as to why. I’ll let you stew on that one
just for a second. Much of what you’re asking for on these nine items in my mind looking at the
documents from the past, historical documents you already have the authorization to do, much of
what you’re asking for so I’m not sure why that requires another vote today. Secondly, though,
you made a statement that this will cost us approximately $38 million dollars. Do you have a
budget line item that we can see how you came up with the $38 million so that we can make
some educated informed decisions as we move forward. Because some how you came up with
$38 million and I’m trying to figure out what does that entail.
Mr. Russell: Yes, that’s fine. I can do that.
Mr. Mason: Do you have it now? I mean somebody ought to.
Mr. Russell: We’ve got it available.
Mr. Mason: Okay, and I’m sure that will include potentially land acquisition costs
because you said you had some preliminary discussion.
Mr. Russell: There are numbers in there for ---
Mr. Mason: There should be some numbers that, and see these are the types of things
that needs to be doing before we get out here to make sure we’re on the same sheet of music. So
the other point that I just want to make very clear is that you have anywhere today from $27 to
29 million in the bank for the TEE Center. Is that not correct?
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Mr. Russell: Not that much, no. It’s, what are you asking specifically?
Mr. Mason: You have today ---
Mr. Russell: We have $20 million dollars that we bonded, we have the potential for the
savings on the Judicial Center that I’m asking to use, the $1.5 million. There’s about $5 million
in excess collections, $2.5 million in interest that we’re proposing that we use.
Mr. Mason: And so when you add all that up you’re right where I was saying. You have
somewhere between 27 and 29 million that can, available that can be utilized for the TEE Center
today.
Mr. Russell: Yes, over the period of the, I mean you’re looking at projected interests and
stuff but yes.
Mr. Mason: You have that today because you already said excess collections so that’s
already in hand. If you said the $2.5 ---
Mr. Russell: (inaudible)
Mr. Mason: --- accrued. That’s already been accrued not yet to accrue. I mean you can’t
quote these numbers in other words if they’re not there. Are you talking about dollars that you
have available now?
Mr. Russell: Yes.
Mr. Mason: That’s all I’m asking. So we’re at twenty-seven to twenty-nine now. The
TEE Center itself without any of this other stuff is $38 million dollars. Based on what you’re
saying I don’t see a budget line item. But taking your word for it’s going to be somewhere not to
exceed $38 million. You need roughly $9 million dollars to move forward with the TEE Center
as the people voted on in 2005 and was later constructed in 2007 to move forward with the TEE
Center. Is that not correct?
Mr. Russell: Yes.
Mr. Mason: Okay. I guess my point is this. I’m not sure where all the other stuff came
in at but the people, certainly the ones that I’ve been discussing this with and there’s some
misconception that the people voted for the TEE Center and now we don’t want to move it
forward. I’m here to tell you I’m very much in support of the TEE Center as was constructed in
2007 and was voted on in 2005. So I’m not sure how we got so far away from that at this
particular time and then moving it at warp speed to get it done. And furthermore tying it to a
vote on SPLOST, this SPLOST when you have anywhere from 12-15 other SPLOSTS projects
that haven’t been completed. But we don’t hear that being tied to this SPLOST vote. I’m not
sure where we’re going with this. Can you shed any light on any of that?
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Mr. Russell: I think obviously you’re talking to me but you’re asking rhetorical
questions that aren’t involved in my conversation at all. I think what you’ve got from me is
proposals to do the TEE Center and the Laney-Walker project based on the fact that we’ve got
the Judicial Center rolling, we’ve got the jail on the ground, working on the ground. We’ve got
the library going. The next obvious move for me was to do the TEE Center and move that
forward. And we’ve done that and I made a recommendation to do that. Tying it to the current
SPLOST is not anything that you’ve heard me say other than the fact that what we’d like to go is
go ahead and have another series of positive things that we’ve got going out there. The timing of
that was next in line. The timing of that is if we can move forward with that I think it’d be good
to make sure that we are moving those dollars as we’ve been told to do and that the purpose of
doing that. Whether or not it killed the SPLOST or didn’t kill the SPLOST isn’t anything I’ve
ever said and it’s never anything I’ve tied together in a manner that’s there. You’re right we’ve
got hundreds, not hundreds numerous other projects that are there, working forward and moving
forward. It’s a process. And I’ve said you know it took us twenty years to do the Judicial
Center. This is on the fast track based on the process that we’ve done there. So you know
you’ve got to be careful with you know my comments have never said what, what your
questioning at this particular point in time because I too have the same questions.
Mr. Mason: Well, here’s what I would like for you to do. Just answer this question if
you would. You have the money and you can move forward with the TEE Center based on the
vote in 2005 and the vote on this Commission on 2007 to move forward today. Do you not?
Mr. Russell: No, I do not.
Mr. Mason: What are you missing?
Mr. Russell: I’m missing the authorization. You’ve got to be cognizant of the fact that
we’ve done, the way we do these things. We continually go back and forth with how we do that.
I’m missing the authorization to have the architects move forward with the schematic design.
I’m missing the authorization to go get the, I mean that’s they way we’ve done those things in
the past. You approve the concept which you’ve done in this case and the voters have done you
required us to come back on numerous occasions to talk about who did what, who’s going to do
what, you’ve looked at the plans, you authorized me to continue with the architects several
months ago in which you did. The next step in that is you’ve got the cosmetic pictures of what
we’ve got. You’ve got the concept there. What I’m asking for is the authorization to go to the
next phase as we spend those dollars, which are going to be fairly expensive. And that’s the
process that we’ve always used and the process I think works well because it makes sure that you
have input in what’s going on. We’ve come regularly as we do that and it’s part of what we’re
doing here and what you know I would assume that’s what you want me to continue to do. I had
no authorization to tell the architects to move further along than what you told me to do the first
time and that was the concept and give you some ideas there on the initial costs. We had that
conversation several months ago in which, as a matter it took as a while to negotiate with the
architects because they thought they were you know they weren’t going to be able to do it within
what we had budgeted or what we even anticipated being able to fund. So you know we’ve had
that conversation.
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Mr. Mason: Well, my final statement would be that we need to move forward with that
and we need to find a viable financing plan for the Laney-Walker/Bethlehem and not muddy the
waters with the other additional items that have been thrown in here at this point so that people
can see if that’s some people desire up here on this Commission to see the TEE Center move
forward in the fashion that it ought to move forward. Then I think we need to deal with the TEE
Center and Laney-Walker/Bethlehem and move forward with those items as was voted on in
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August 21 of 2007 and we deal with the remainder of this at some point later because obviously
we’re not going to have consensus on this today.
Mr. Russell: And if I may if you could tell me what parts of those are different than what
you just said on moving forward on maybe that’s my confusion. I mean what I’ve asked you for
is exactly what you said the authority to move forward with those items that are necessary to do
both the TEE Center and the Laney-Walker area. I mean that’s, that’s what I’ve asked.
Mr. Mason: Well, you’ve asked for quite a bit more than that in these nine statements if
you want to be truthfully honest about it.
Mr. Russell: If you like for me to go back through them again. If you could share that
with me I’d greatly appreciate that. The only thing in addition to that that I see is the parking
needs of the TEE Center. And I think we all know that that’s there. We’ve got it in the contract
for the TEE Center to move forward with that and that’s part of the deal we’ve had. We’ve got
to buy the property. We’ve got to get the bonds. Timeline for the implementation for Laney-
Walker we’re dealing with. Allocation of the hotel tax ff you can’t do that you don’t have the
money to do the bond so it’s all a part of that particular package and the people to help put
together the deal for you. I mean I’m a little bewildered at the moment ---
Mr. Mason: Me too.
Mr. Russell: --- on what you’re asking me to do that’s not here or what’s here that you’re
not asking me to do.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, just for some clarification here. I just did want to make a couple
statements. First off I want to say publicly and for the record I am strongly in favor of SPLOST.
I think that we need the SPLOST. Those infrastructure projects which 67% of the package is
infrastructure projects, we need that as a local community. So I did want to go on record as
saying that. I don’t believe that the two are tied together. And in defense of Mr. Russell I don’t
believe that he ever said anything publicly to lean folks to believe that. But I also believe that we
have an opportunity for a real win, win situation here to where we can put you know, it’s not an
either or. We can have a TEE Center and put $37 ½ million dollars into redeveloping the Laney-
Walker/Bethlehem neighborhood. So I think that’s the way we need to look at this. I know it’s a
very complex initiative. You know I don’t pretend to be a bond attorney or anything but I do
think we need to look at it. We have a great opportunity here to have a lasting impact on our
community as a whole. Commissioner Holland, you had your hand up?
Mr. Holland: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. One of the things that concerns me, Mr. Mayor, is
that in looking back at this particular agenda item here talking about the TEE Center. I
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remember when we first started talking about this. The price for the TEE Center at that
particular time was $27 million dollars. And it was agreed upon by persons from the Augusta
Convention and Visitor’s Bureau that that TEE Center could be built with that $20 million
dollars. Then of course that amount of money has now increased. So my concern is that why
haven’t we gotten started on building the TEE Center. You know we’ve been taking a whole lot
of time in talking about this and all of a sudden we’re rushing trying to do this. And I’m, before
I became a Commissioner I remember us talking about building the Judicial Center and I’ve been
on this Commission now going on four years. And four or five years prior to that they we’re
talking about building the Judicial Center. So we’ve been talking about building the Judicial
Center between 10, 12 almost 15 years and of course that has come to a reality. So at this
particular time my concern is what is the urgency? What is the urgency now of us building the
TEE Center because we do not have all of the items that we need in place. We just finished
talking about 7, 8, 9 maybe 10 different items. What we need to do is maybe have another list,
an itemized list just like we have here so we has Commissioners can have an opportunity to sit
down and look at this and then respond to it. But as we stand now we’re been talking an we’re
giving input now but we need a breakdown and itemized list as to what we’re going to be voting
on in the future. And so we haven’t any, and we don’t need to rush into this. We need to take
our time because we have taxpayer’s money that we’re going to be using and they need to know
exactly what we’re going to be doing. We can’t have any here say so. It’s got to come out
straight and this is what we’re looking for. And as Commissioners and elected officials we need
to do it the right way and we need to take our time and do it. We don’t have to rush and do this
you know. So I’m just hoping that we will be we will be we’ll take our time and there’s no
urgency in us voting on this and passing this to make sure that it’s passed just to be passing. I
commend you on what you’ve done. We still need more work to be done.
Mr. Mayor: If I can make two points. One being that I think this needs to be said that all
of these projects can be done at no additional expense to the taxpayer. We’re not talking about
increasing property taxes to do any of what we’re putting forward. The second thing would be
we talked about being the second biggest city in Georgia and I think the urgency is that as other
cities Columbus has a Trade and Exhibit Center, Savannah has one. You know these cities are
cities that were competing against for convention business and each day that goes by that we
don’t have the facilities to provide for that type of convention for GMA or for ACCG giving the
current facilities we have we can’t get those conventions. So I just think that’s you know that’s
in order to compete with those cities we need facilities like this.
Mr. Holland: Mr. Mayor, but they did not rush into building those facilities. You know
we’ve had an opportunity to speak with those persons when we attend those conventions. I agree
with you but they did not rush into building those facilities. They took their time to make sure
that they knew what they were doing and everything was in place. And I think that’s what we
need we need to here in Augusta.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, and I know Ms. Beard has had her hand up and I’d like to recognize
the lady.
Ms. Beard: Mr. Mayor, I would like to respond to something that Commissioner
Grantham stated. I’d like to respond to something in reference first of all that Mr. Grantham
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stated. He stated that funds would be transferred, funneled from the Coliseum Authority to the
Convention Center. And as I have read the duties and responsibilities of the Coliseum Authority
it appears the authority the Coliseum Authority should handle all of those type complexes for the
City of Augusta.
Mr. Holland: That’s right.
Ms. Beard: I guess I’m disappointed in all that’s going on because I few years ago I
signed an agreement contract and everything in reference to Laney-Walker. The TEE Center is
important but maybe Laney-Walker is first and foremost in my mind. And I signed that or was a
part of it with the understanding that that project would be as all other projects that are done in
the City of Augusta. Now with Laney-Walker and Bethlehem everything has been determined,
the amount all of this. With any other project and I’ll use as an example the TEE Center when
that was funded to them immediately they were able to go to you and say we would appreciate
working to get those funds and you did. Now that’s exactly where we are. And that’s exactly
where we have been since all of this came about with Laney-Walker and Bethlehem. So the only
thing we’re asking for is a path for the method to be used to secure those funds. And now what
all of this is about I don’t know, I really don’t. I just don’t know. Now I know when that was
determined it was determined that the TEE Center would receive $20 million dollars. Okay, so
they have their $20 million dollars. Now I have no problem with any of that and I think that’s
why we will be meeting with you this afternoon because that’s very, very important to us and
that’s all that is important. Everything has been determined in reference to Laney-Walker and
Bethlehem and we feel like every other entity or project in Augusta it should move forward.
Now in addition to the TEE Center and when all day yesterday I had to listen to General Motors
and everything that is going on in this country that even the federal government income is down
44% at this time the state is down 25% and I understand Mr. Mayor you made a mistake in your
letter to us.
Mr. Mayor: Um, what was that?
Ms. Beard: And with all of that I am simply saying at this time I can not vote for an
additional $35 million for something as non-essential as an exhibition center. But certainly in
that the $20 million was approved I’ll go along with it.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Brigham and then I’ll come back to Commissioner
Hatney.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, while people are asking questions I think we need to ask this
question. Why is it that this Commission cannot agree to a location for the TEE Center for the
first two years? Why is it then when we agree to a location we can’t seem to buy a property? It
takes a majority of this Commission to vote to do these things. Obviously some people don’t
want to see all projects completed. They want to separate them between their projects and our
projects. I thought these were projects for the citizens of Augusta that’s going to improve the
economic status of Augusta. I didn’t know that it was just going to improve part of the city’s
status and not the other part of the city. I thought all ships in this city rise at the same rate and
fell at the same rate. And I believe that. I know in my part of the world it does because when
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everybody else is poor I’m as poor as everybody else. And if I can get a few dollars I can feel as
wealthy as everybody else does when they have some money. But I don’t understand why we
can’t approve some things. It’s our inaction that has caused this project to be delayed. It’s not
our actions and I don’t think I think it is ours as a group problem that we’re not acting. I think
everybody’s project is on line. I think the problem is now that we need to move forward to the
next step. I think that we need to take the step and I think it takes us to do something to get
there. And I don’t see us doing that. That’s what I see is the problem.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Hatney, then back to Commissioner Beard.
Mr. Hatney: One of the things, Mr. Administrator, that concerns me and it’s just a
concern to me is that if, what muddied the water real bad is when a month or so ago you came
back with that thick packet. That’s what’s got us bottle necked and going around in circles right
now. See if we were still talking about even these things you got done here just some things in
here that don’t necessarily mean a whole lot because there’s no financial breakdown. There’s no
structure. We don’t know what’s going to pay for what. And to ask me to just give you a Carte
Blanc on anything is asking too much. I just can’t do that. I need to see what we’re going to be
spending tax money on. I think that’s my privilege. And I don’t think it’s asking too much
because when we vote on something we’re held accountable for it as if we know exactly what
you’re going to be spending it for. And we don’t have a clue and you come up say it’s going to
spend no more than $38 million that’s not saying how much you’re going to spend for the land
and we could’ve been passed this point, we could’ve been if it was on a fast track over the last
three years like it was over the last 30 days the TEE Center would’ve been already built.
Mr. Mayor: But Commissioner Hatney ---
Mr. Hatney: The problem is and, Mr. Mayor, let me say this. You, I have some concerns
that you’re comparing Augusta with places like Columbus and anywhere else when Augusta
don’t collect no where near that millage data to collect. Columbus collected sixteen-mil. We
push ours to the max we don’t get but 9.67. So don’t compare us with folks who are collecting
two and three times the amount of money we collect.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, but just for clarity and I know I think the Administrator’s going to say
that that’s what he’s requesting us to do today. Is to authorize him to go out and enter into these
negotiations and bring those real hard numbers back to us. And that’s all he’s asking. Mr.
Administrator?
Mr. Russell: You know obviously I’m ---
Mr. Hatney: Is that before you spend any money?
Mr. Russell: Sure, that’s why I’m here. I can’t spend any money until y’all tell me what
to spend. I’m mean that’s sort of the way it works and I appreciate that. I mean you know what
you’ve done is authorize the schematics on the, or the concept of the TEE Center. We’ve got the
architect on board to do that. What I’m asking for is to come back with those packages you’re
asking to see so you can make some decisions based on how we move forward. I mean that’s
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what I’m asking for, the ability to bring those things back to you so you can have the information
that you need to make a rational decision on whether or not that’s a good idea or not.
Mr. Mayor: He’s not spending any money today. Commissioner Johnson, I see you’ve
had your hand up.
Mr. Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Administrator, I think the bottom line of it is
here today is we got to come up with some direction for you. That’s what I’m hearing here. I
don’t listen to a lot of conversation here today and I don’t think we’ve got clarity or a clear
direction of what path we want you to take. And I think that’s the question here. We’ve got to
determine the path that we’re going to send you on so you can come back with the necessary
information for us to make an educated decision based on this matter here. Honestly this is as
really been going on way to long okay? It’s been almost the last 30 days that we’ve been dealing
with this and we still haven’t come to a common solution. So what I want to do here today and
just get notion that we need to come up with a solution to give you direction on which direction
you’re going to go in and what we need you to bring back. And I hope that we all can agree to
do that so we can get this path moving forward. Because like Ms. Beard and everybody else, I
want to see things progress in the city as a whole not one particular entity but the entire city. I
have spoken with the Mayor several times that when we work on the least of the community the
whole community shines. But we have to focus on that so hopefully we can come up with a
consensus on this and come up with a solution to give you direction on which way we want to go
and what we need you to bring back. And if that’s one step at a time we need to do it one step at
a time. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Bowles: Second!
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Hatney.
Mr. Hatney: (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: No, and that’s fine. Obviously I’ve suspended the two-minute rule as the
two times recognized because it came to discuss.
Mr. Hatney: In a discussion like this there’s not too many rules. One question I’d like to
ask of you. What I hear you saying is that you want a path forward. And what I’m saying is that
we want to see, at least I want to see the thirty-eight, up to $38 million like you’re talking about
and what it’s going to spent for. How much you’re going to be spending in land as opposed to
what is on the tax books for. I want to see all of that. And so really items 1, item 5 basically is
about the same thing. I don’t see no difference in it. But you know there are one or two items on
here that sit and the actually time line for the Laney-Walker stuff. Those three things we get that
done then you, and I think you have the authority to do that without any vote because that’s what
we’re here to discuss.
Mr. Russell: If you could include moving forward with the schematics on the ---
Mr. Hatney: You mean for the drawings on the TEE Center?
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Mr. Russell: Yes.
Mr. Hatney: You know I thought you had that done already.
Mr. Russell: I’ve got the ---
Mr. Hatney: I’m serious.
Mr. Russell: I don’t ---
Mr. Mayor: Conceptual versus schematic.
Mr. Russell: I don’t have the, I need to get started ---
Mr. Hatney: You don’t have where the nuts and bolts are going to go.
Mr. Russell: Yeap.
Mr. Hatney: Okay.
Mr. Russell: If you could agree ---
Mr. Hatney: On those three things.
Mr. Russell: --- on me with those things, those four things you just said that will get us to
where we need to be today I think.
Mr. Hatney: But #9 I’ve got a question to ask. #9 I was under the impression that
counsel was supposed to be recommended by the General Counsel and not by your financial
advisor,
Mr. Russell: We can do that if you like.
Mr. Hatney: But that’s who’s supposed to do it though. I don’t think we ought to take
folks jobs away from them rather than we don’t let them function.
Mr. Russell: That’s fine. I have no problem with that.
Mr. Hatney: Because this is not the person down here that we declared to be the
gatekeeper, whoever she is.
Mr. Russell: No problem with that at all.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Reverend Hatney, so let me and for clarity, Mr. Administrator, there
are items which Mr. Hatney just referenced included #9. If we make that change to allow our in
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house legal counsel to make the recommendation for the finance group are we good with
approving today those, those steps?
Mr. Johnson: Can we hear those steps?
Mr. Mayor: Can we hear the ones that you referenced or Mr. Russell as you heard the
ones that were referenced.
Mr. Russell: What I heard and what I think would be to bring back to you the schematic
designs with costs for the TEE Center. To bring back to you the package that would include the
property purchase and cost for your approval. To bring back to you the timeline and the plan for
Laney-Walker/Bethlehem and a detailed timeline so with what we’ve got going there. To um,
and I need to continue to work on the Convention Operator Contract to be brought back for your
approval.
Mr. Hatney: Okay, let me ask you one question. While you’re working on that why
can’t we consider in view of the fact that we’ve got one the best management companies there is
down at the marina. What would be wrong with considering them? That would save us
$300,000 a year.
Mr. Russell: Let me share with you part of the concern with that and part of the initial
agreement with the building of the property there is the fact that we’ve already got a long term
agreement with those particular people to operate part of that system. My concern would be is if
you bring in another layer there you’ve got two different people operating within what’s going to
be a function that comes together. And I’m not too sure that they would agree to allowing that as
part of their contract. Because they’re operating the convention, not the convention, well the
convention space the meeting rooms and stuff. We would try to bring in somebody else to
operate the other and that was never part of the original discussion we had with them. That was
not part of the initial term sheet that we approved several years ago. To change that now I think
would probably put that particular portion ---
Mr. Hatney: The reason I asked that when I look at the mandate it was the convention
civic center authority what ever you want to call it works under. It included managing all of
these facilities and what we’re doing is violating our own rule own law for somebody else’s
benefit.
Mr. Russell: I can’t speak to that. I know the original agreement ---
Mr. Hatney: Have you ever seen it? Look at their agreement. It named the thing that
they’re supposed to be managing.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, before we, before we get through that I sense consensus around giving
direction to Mr. Russell to move ahead with the steps he just referenced. Can I get a substitute
motion to authorize him to do so?
Mr. Holland: Mr. Mayor?
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Mr. Mayor: And hang on one second, Commissioner Holland. If Mr. Russell, could you
repeat that or Ms. Bonner, do you?
The Clerk: I’ll attempt to do it and Mr. Russell can jump in at any time. The general
consensus is to move forward with Item 1 with a cost estimate to be brought back. Item 3 to
authorize the Administrator to finalize the convention operator’s agreement.
Mr. Russell: To be brought back.
The Clerk: All of these are to be brought back. Item 7 is to authorize the Administrator
to develop the detailed timeline for the implementation of the Laney-Walker/Bethlehem project
to be brought back. Item 9, that was to have in house counsel to make a recommendation
regarding the Bond Counsel.
Mr. Mayor: Can I get a substitute motion to that affect?
Mr. Hatney: So moved.
Mr. Mayor: Do we have a second?
Mr. Johnson: Second.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Holland, then Commissioner Beard.
Mr. Holland: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. That was my concern about the list of items. I
wanted to make sure that we knew exactly what we were going to be talking about, what we
were going to be voting on if necessary. You know and I think each one of the Commissioners
should have a copy of that list if it’s possible.
Mr. Mayor: Okay.
The Clerk: The list, I don’t have it.
Mr. Holland: What we just read off.
The Clerk: Okay, you will be considering items 1, 3, 4, 7 and 9.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, Commissioner Beard, then Commissioner Brigham.
Ms. Beard: Mr. Mayor, I am very concerned about SPLOST at this particular time. And
with that I’m wondering with whatever he brings back that it could be done after the vote for
SPLOST.
Mr. Mayor: In the substitute motion though do we want to give a time direction for this?
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Mr. Russell: I don’t think I would be able to complete. I know I’m not going to be able
to complete any of that by in two weeks. So I think if you’re looking at that but the key is that I
think we’re moving forward. We’ve made some good progress.
Mr. Mayor: And as quickly as possible.
Mr. Russell: I appreciate the dialogue that we’ve had because that’s exactly what I’ve
been asking for.
Mr. Hatney: After SPLOST.
Mr. Mayor: Okay. Commissioner Brigham.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I, we’re making real progress. I think one thing needs to be
done. I think if we’re going to have time lines in there we ought to also have a detailed timeline
for the completion of the TEE Center in this list of things.
Mr. Mayor: Detailed timeline as to when we’re looking to complete the TEE Center.
Would that be okay to incorporate in your ---
Mr. Hatney: I voted on this thing for four years (inaudible).
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we’ll get there, we can get there, one step at a time. If there’s no
further discussion Commissioners will now vote by the substitute sign of voting.
Mr. Brigham and Mr. Grantham vote No.
Ms. Beard abstains.
Motion carries 7-2-1.
Mr. Mayor: And I’ll just say a point of personal privilege. Communication is key and I
appreciate everybody’s input on this and I appreciate us allowing the Administrator to end this
city and this government to take a step forward. Mr. Russell, do you have something to say?
Mr. Russell: Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, I appreciate it.
Mr. Mayor: And I know we need a Legal meeting.
Mr. Attorney: Pending and potential litigation and real estate matters.
LEGAL MEETING
A.Pending and Potential Litigation.
B.Real Estate.
C.Personnel
ADDENDUM
24. Motion to go into a Legal Meeting.
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Mr. Mayor: Can I get a motion to go into a legal for those issues?
Ms. Beard: So moved.
Mr. Johnson: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Commissioners will now vote by the usual
sign.
Mr. Brigham and Mr. Smith vote No.
Mr. Bowles out.
Motion carries 7-2.
[LEGAL MEETING]
26. Motion to authorize execution by the mayor of the affidavit of compliance with
Georgia’s Open Meeting Act.
Mr. Holland: So moved.
Ms. Beard: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and second. Commissioners will now vote by the usual
sign.
Mr. Jackson: Ms. Bonner, Joe and Corey are out.
The Clerk: Yes, sir, thank you.
Mr. Bowles and Mr. Johnson out.
Motion carries 8-0.
Mr. Mayor: I’d like to now recognize the Attorney and then prior to there is one house
cleaning item that I need to recognize Commissioner Brigham for.
ADDENDUM
25. Motion to add and approve a settlement of all claims against Augusta Richmond
County, its 911 Call Center, and all employees, successors and agents in Superior Court of
Richmond County Civil Action no. 2006-RCCV-547, a wrongful death case brought on
behalf of decedent, Otis Harper, Sr. for the sum of $40,000.00.
Mr. Mayor: Can I get a motion to that affect?
Mr. Hatney: So moved.
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Mr. Jackson: Second.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Commissioners will now vote by the usual
sign of voting.
Mr. Bowles and Mr. Johnson out.
Motion carries 8-0.
Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Brigham.
PUBLIC SERVICES
3. Motion to deny the following Business Licenses for failure to pay Inspection Fees: Sand
Hill Grill 2457 Wheeler Rd, Surrey Tavern 471 Highland Ave. and Racquets Restaurant &
Sports Bar 3206 West Wimbledon Dr. District 1, 3, & 7. Super Districts 9 & 10. (Approved
by Public Services Committee May 26, 2009)
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, can we reconsider Item #3 to eliminate Surrey Tavern from
the denial of, motion to deny a business license for failure to pay inspection fees? It was
requested of the Health Department earlier today. I don’t we eliminated Surrey Tavern in the
original motion and therefore I’m asking to rescind the original motion and redo it.
Mr. Mayor: Madam Clerk, we would need a motion to reopen, reconsider.
The Clerk: Reconsider Item 3.
Mr. Brigham: I make a motion to reconsider Item #3.
Mr. Jackson: So moved.
Mr. Mayor: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Commissioners will now vote by the
usual sign.
Mr. Bowles and Mr. Johnson out.
Motion carries 8-0.
Mr. Mayor: And, Mr. Brigham, I’ll recognize you again.
Mr. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we deny the business license for
failure to pay inspection fees at Sand HillGrill and the Racquets Restaurant and Bar and
Grill and leave Surrey Tavern out in that discussion.
Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and a second. Oh, no, excuse me. We have a motion.
Mr. Jackson: Second.
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Mr. Mayor: Mr. Jackson seconded it. If there’s no further discussion Commissioners
will now vote by the usual sign of voting.
Mr. Hatney abstains.
Mr. Bowles and Mr. Jackson out.
Motion carries 7-1.
Mr. Mayor: And with no further business to come before the body we stand adjourned.
Good day y’all.
[MEETING ADJOURNED]
Lena Bonner
Clerk of Commission
CERTIFICATION:
I, Lena J. Bonner, Clerk of Commission, hereby certify that the above is a true and correct copy
of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Augusta Richmond County Commission held on
June 2, 2009.
______________________________
Clerk of Commission
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