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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-05-2001 Regular Meeting REGULAR MEETING COMMISSION CHAMBERS June 5, 2001 Augusta Richmond County Commission convened at 2:08 p.m., Tuesday, June 5, 2001, the Honorable Bob Young, Mayor, presiding. PRESENT: Hons. Colclough, J. Brigham, Mays, Kuhlke, H. Brigham, Shepard, Beard, Cheek, Williams and Bridges, members of Augusta Richmond County Commission. Also Present: Jim Wall, Attorney; George Kolb, Administrator; and Lena Bonner, Clerk of Commission. The Invocation was given by the Reverend Rivers. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited. Mr. Mayor: We’d like to welcome our visitors today, and I think the Clerk has an announcement about one of the Commissioners. Clerk: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission. Commissioner Mays is tied up with a funeral service he had at one, and he just wanted you all to know that he’s en route and he should be here probably in the next 30 or 35 minutes. Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Are there any additions to the agenda, Madame Clerk? Clerk: No, sir. Mr. Mayor: Let’s move ahead with our proclamations, then. PROCLAMATION: (Requested by Commissioner Henry Brigham) Ms. Bertha Sutton Clerk: Ms. Bertha Sutton, would you please join the Mayor at the podium here? In recognition of Ms. Bertha F. Sutton: Whereas, Ms. Bertha Sutton has served our community as an educator for more than 35 years and is retiring from the Richmond County Board of Education; and Whereas, Ms. Bertha Sutton has unselfishly given so much of her time to promote excellence in every Richmond County school that she has served; and Whereas, Ms. Sutton is an exceptional example of how people can bring about positive change when they directly involve themselves and believe in people who share the same vision; and Whereas, Ms. Sutton actively served throughout the Augusta community in the following organizations: Richmond County Association of Educators, Leadership 2 Augusta graduate, Georgia Association of Educators, Georgia Middle School Association, National Educators Association; and Whereas, Ms. Sutton has achieved many professional milestones to include: Richmond County Association Leadership Award, Richmond County Association of Georgia Educators Award, Milton Foundation National Educator Award; Now therefore, I, Bob Young, Mayor of the City of Augusta, do hereby proclaim June 5, 2001 to be Bertha F. Sutton Day and request all citizens recognize more than 35 years of outstanding leadership in educational service given by Ms. Sutton. In witness thereof, I have unto set my hand and caused the seal of Augusta, th Georgia to be affixed this 5 day of June, 2001. Mr. Mayor: Congratulations. (A round of applause is given.} Clerk: RECOGNITION: Mr. Jim Wall, Esq. election as the 2001 president of the Association of County Commissioners of Georgia’s County Attorneys Section Mr. Mayor: Do you want to make a speech? Mr. Wall: No. Mr. Mayor: We congratulate you [inaudible] peers and [inaudible] of Georgia. Mr. Wall: Thank you. (A round of applause is given) Clerk: PRESENTATIONS: Shepeard Community Blood Center "Battle of the Badges" blood drive competition between Richmond County Sheriff’s and Fire Departments Dr. Dube: Mayor Bob Young, City Commissioners, I’m Dr. Dube from the Shepeard Blood Center. Our Sheriff’s Department and the Fire Department have made some very significant contributions to our blood program. With me is Robin Steinhirkle from the Blood Center, and she is going to make the awards. Ms. Steinhirkle: First I’d like to recognize Captain Linda McDonald of the Fire Department and Lt. Leon Garvin with the Sheriff’s office for their recruitment in helping us put this blood drive together. We’d like to say that when we have a blood drive 3 competition, there are no losers because we’re getting blood and we’re giving life. But it just happens that one side gives more blood than the other, and this year the plaque goes to the Sheriff’s office. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Next is our employee of the month. As soon as the Clerk gets back, we’ll have the reading of the award. Clerk: Employee of the Month Award: Mr. Brian Richards, Augusta Utilities Department Clerk: Mr. Richards? [reading] Dear Mayor Young, the Employee of the Month Selection Committee has selected Mr. Brian Richards with the Augusta Utilities Department in the Water and Sewer Construction and Maintenance Division as April’s Employee of the Month. Mr. Richards has worked for the City of Augusta for 20 years. Mr. Richards is a supervisor who plans, directs and coordinates water and sewer construction and maintenance. He was nominated by his supervisor, Mr. Max Hicks, who gave the following reasons for his nomination: Brian is an extremely dedicated employee. He has not taken a vacation day since December, 1999. He works nights, weekends and holidays with no compensation. He has diligently worked on the Rae’s Creek sewer problem so that no problems will be experienced during Masters Week., ® the most important time for Augusta to look its best. The Committee felt that based on Mr. Hicks’ recommendation and Mr. Richards’ attributes, he should be awarded Employee of the Month. Mr. Hicks further stated Brian has developed a plan to handle the sanitation sewage in the Rae’s Creek line at the Augusta National and the Augusta Country Club. He has coordinated this with the Augusta National and the Augusta Country Club personnel, and both groups are very pleased with Brian and the Utilities personnel involved. The Committee feels he should be recommended for his efforts. The Committee would appreciate you joining us in awarding Mr. Brian Richards Employee of th the Month for April at our June 5 meeting. Thank you. (A round of applause is given.) Clerk: Mayor’s Community Service Awards: Richmond County High School Students Mr. Mayor: [inaudible] is here from Doctors Hospital. This is the third year that we’ve done this in partnership with Doctors Hospital. We’ve given out a $250 cash scholarship to one senior out of each one of the public high schools in Augusta and given about $9,000, same as what we’re doing here today. This is another way that we can give back to the community and recognize young people for the community service they 4 perform to make Augusta a better place. [inaudible], is there anything you’d like to say before we give out the checks? Mr. Speaker: Thank you for the opportunity to fund the awards [inaudible]. Mr. Mayor: I think we’ve got most of these students here, so I’m going to call out their names. If you’ll come up here, we’ll present you with a plaque and a facsimile of the check. The real check will be given to you next week. Raymond [inaudible]. Congratulations. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Next is Emily Herrington. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Danielle Davis. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Next is Adrian Thompson. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Then Daniel Boreson. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: I see my Finance Chairman leaning over here trying to get these checks. Next is Natasha Ann [inaudible]. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Cynthia Daniel. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: Next is [inaudible] Collier. (A round of applause is given.) Mr. Mayor: And last, but certainly not least, is Reginald Gilmore. (A round of applause is given.) 5 Mr. Mayor: Thank you so much. And congratulations to all of the students and their parents, for they certainly couldn’t have done what they did without the support of their parents at home. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Clerk: Item 57. Mr. Mayor: We have some people here for this item, so we want to go ahead and take it up. Clerk: PLANNING: 57. Z-01-31 – Request from the Augusta-Richmond County Planning Commission to approve a petition from Wesley Lowe, on behalf of Kun Lee Yong, requesting a change of zoning from Zone B1 (Neighborhood Business) to Zone B2 (General Business) affecting property located at the southeast corner of the intersection of Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and Fifteenth Avenue. District 2 (2158 & 2160 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.) (Deferred from the May 15 Commission meeting) Mr. Mayor: Mr. Patty? Mr. Patty: Mr. Lowe did not appear at the last meeting. I don’t know whether he got crossed signals at our meeting or not, but there was no objection at our meeting. The property is surrounded by B2 uses and B2 zoning. Staff and the Commission did not see any reason not to approve it, and there was no opposition at our meeting. Mr. Mayor: Is the petitioner here today? The petitioner is here? Is there anything you’d like to say? Come up to the microphone. Mr. Lowe: There was some lack of communication. I was not at the last meeting. There were some questions Rev. Fryer and some of the neighborhood association had. We cleared that up and we’ve come to an agreement. I, at this point, speak with Mr. Glenn [inaudible], I don’t think there are going to be any problems in trying to get that location rezoned with them. Mr. Mayor: All right. Rev. Fryer, I know you had an interest in this. Did you want to put something on the record today? Rev. Fryer: Yes, I’d just like for -- Mr. Mayor: Give us your name and address for the record, please. Rev. Fryer: Thank you very much. I’m sorry. Rev. Larry Fryer, 1115 Sixth Avenue. The Turpin Hill Neighborhood Association did meet, the executive body, and discuss the concerns about the site that he wanted to have, and that particular meeting, 6 and learning that it was for a car lot, the organization did agree to support that with no opposition. Mr. Mayor: Thank you, sir. Are there any opponents here today? Mr. Henry? Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Chairman, if I’m in order, I’d like to move for approval. Mr. Kuhlke: Second. Mr. Mayor: Motion and second to approve. Any discussion? Mr. Williams? Mr. Williams: Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is in my District and the Turpin Hill Neighborhood Association did meet and talk with the petitioner. On last week we discussed the point that if this business resulted back from a car lot to something else, once it’s zoned, once it’s zone that then you can come in with a package store or anything else of that nature. And I’ve got no problems in supporting it if there’s a stipulation says that if it does not continue to be a car lot, if it does change hands, it would revert back to the present zoning that it is now. I have no problem with the zoning the way it is as a car lot, but once you know, we open this up and if we don’t put that stipulation in there, it may revert next year into something else and it’s legally open and ready to put something. We had a lot of trouble on that corner for many, many years with old places there, and I’m certainly not in support of doing anything if that’s not going to be a stipulation. I think, George, we have certain areas where we can put that stipulation in; is that right? Mr. Patty: Yes, sir. We’ve done conditional zoning in the past in situations like this and I think if the petitioner would agree to it, what you’d want to do is stipulation that it would permit all uses allowed in the B1 zone plus the car lot from the B2 zone. Mr. Lowe: I’ll accept that. Mr. Mayor: You’ll accept that stipulation? Mr. Lowe: I’ll accept that, yes, sir. Mr. Mayor: Rev. Fryer? Rev. Fryer: Thank you, Commissioner, that is what was addressed to the body as well, that that stipulation would be added in there. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Does your motion include that stipulation, Mr. Henry? Mr. H. Brigham: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Mr. Jerry Brigham? 7 Mr. J. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, is the stipulation on the ownership of his property, cause I don’t think that’s legal, is it, Mr. Wall? I thought it had to be on the -- Mr. Wall: I think as it was finally worded it was so long as it continued. I assume that you’re not saying that it has to be tied to the owner? I mean -- Mr. Mayor: Tied to the use, right? Mr. Wall: Tied to the use, not the ownership. Mr. Williams: That’s correct. And to get clarification, if this business goes out of business, it reverts back to what it is, and if somebody wants to do something else they got to come back to us for rezoning. That’s that clarification. Mr. Mayor: Everybody comfortable? Any more discussion? All in favor of the motion, please signify by turning on your green light, voting yes. Mr. Mays out. Motion carries 9-0. Mr. Mayor: Madame Clerk, let’s take up the consent agenda, if you will. Clerk: Consent agenda, items 1 through 56. Items 1 through 56. If there are any objectors to the alcohol consumption requests, please signify your objection by the raising of your hand. 1. Motion to approve a request by Roan Miranda for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine License to be used in connection with Focus Restaurant &Lounge located at 2320 Gordon Highway. There will be a dance hall. District 4. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 7. Motion to approve a request by Roan Miranda for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine License to be used in connection with Focus Restaurant &Lounge located at 2320 Gordon Highway. There will be a dance hall. District 4. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) Clerk: Are there any objections to those petitions? No objections, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor: None are noted, Madame Clerk. Clerk: Yes, sir. PUBLIC SERVICES: 8 1. Motion to approve a request by Roan Miranda for an on premise consumption Liquor, Beer & Wine License to be used in connection with Focus Restaurant &Lounge located at 2320 Gordon Highway. There will be a dance hall. District 4. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 2. M otion to approve budget appropriation for acquisition of Aircraft Rescue Firefighting Vehicle (ARFF) in the amount of $600,000. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 3. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Runway 17-35 Lighting Rehabilitation Project in the amount of $600,000. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 4. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Runway 17-35 and 8-26 PAPI Installation Project in the amount of $300,000. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 5. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Taxiway "C" Rehabilitation Project in the amount of $1,700,000. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 6. Motion to approve payment of two invoices to Intellisystems for cabling performed at library at 902 Greene Street. (Approved by Public Service Committee May 29, 2001) 7. Motion to approve a request by Miguel A. Rivera for an on premise consumption Beer License to be used in connection with Los Hermanos Restaurant located at 2960 Old Highway 1. District 4. Super District 9. (Approved by Public Service Committeee May 29, 2001) ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES: 8. Motion to approve scheduling a City Summit. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 9. Motion to approve retirement of Quentin L. Conway under the 1977 Pension Plan. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 10. Motion to approve an Ordinance providing for the demolition of certain unsafe and uninhabitable properties in the Turpin Hill Neighborhood: 1436 Essie McIntyre Boulevard, 1102 Ninth Avenue, 932 Florence Street (District nd 2, Super District 9); and waive 2 reading. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 11. Motion to approve the Complaint and Grievance Procedures that will provide a formal process for the receipt and resolution of all complaints and/or grievances directed to the Housing and Neighborhood Development Department, its staff and programs. These procedures will apply to all programs and projects for which HND funding and/or other assistance is provided. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 12. Motion to approve Subordination Agreement for Ms. Jantzeen Dinkins, 3710 Colbert Street, Augusta, GA 30906. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 13. Motion to approve the Augusta Richmond County Neighborhood Business Investment Program to establish a reimbursement grant of $2,500 for eligible 9 expenses incurred by new businesses locating in the Laney-Walker Enterprise Zone (LWEZ) as approved by the Citizens Advisory Council on May 16, 2001. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 14. Motion to approve request from Public Works Department for $200,000 in Recaptured Urban Development Action Grant (R-UDAG) funds for Phase I of the Augusta Commons Project. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 15. Motion to approve request from The Augusta Task Force for the Homeless for Housing & Neighborhood Development Department (HND) to assume administrative oversight of the 1998 Homeless Supportive Services Grant. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 16. Motion to approve Antioch Ministries, Inc. request to defer payment on their 17 rental units for low income families construction loan for 36 months. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 17. Motion to approve subordination for Eddie Robinson. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) 18. Deleted from consent agenda. PUBLIC SAFETY: 19. Motion to approve the addition of the Augusta Richmond County Deputy Administrator, Marshall of Civil Court of Richmond County and other ex officio members to the 9-1-1 Steering Committee as listed on page 4 of the Augusta Richmond County 9-1-1 Policy and Procedures Manual. (Approved by Public Safety Committee May 29, 2001) 20. Motion to approve purchase of server for Geographic Information System (GIS) Applications and Data with approved SPLOST funds. (Approved by Public Safety Committee May 29, 2001) 21. Motion to approve Indigent Defense Grant for 2002 funds. (Approved by Public Safety Committee May 29, 2001) FINANCE: 22. Motion to approve Georgia Department of Community Affairs list of 2002 Pass-Through Local Assistance Grant Awards for Augusta Richmond County. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 23. Motion to approve budget appropriation for acquisition of Aircraft Rescue Firefighting Vehicle (ARFF) in the amount of $600,000. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 24. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Runway 17-35 Lighting Rehabilitation Project in the amount of $600,000. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 25. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Runway 17-35 and 8-26 PAPI Installation Project in the amount of $300,000. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 10 26. Motion to approve budget appropriation for the Taxiway "C" Rehabilitation Project in the amount of $1,700,000. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 27. Motion to approve a request from Mr. John S. Smith for relief from penalty charges for property at 2421 Mike Padgett Hwy. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 28. Motion to approve refund of 1998 and 1999 taxes in the amount of $303.88 for overpayment of taxes on Map 271, Parcel 41. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 29. Motion to approve refund of 1999 taxes in the amount of $152.66 for overpayment of taxes on Map 224, Parcel 116.01. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 30. Motion to approve refund of 1999 taxes in the amount of $2,890.58 for overpayment of taxes on Map 246, Parcel 1.02. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 31. Motion to approve refund of 1998 and 1999 taxes in the amount of $1,153.87 for overpayment of taxes on Account #2006251. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) th 32. Motion to approve bid award for July 4 Pyrotechnics Display to Melrose Pyrotechnics, Inc. based on March 31, 1999 contract. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 33. Deleted from consent agenda. 34. Deleted from consent agenda. 35. Motion to approve the restructured 2001 Transit Budget. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 36. Motion to authorize Finance Department to negotiate a contract for banking services with First Union National Bank. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 37. Motion to approve the Link Deposit Program with the amount of $4.4 million dollars. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 38. Motion to approve funding in the amount of $7,000 for expenses associated with the Amtrak site visit to Augusta on June 6, 2001 from the Promotional Account. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 39. Motion to approve an application to the National Park Service for an Urban Park and Recreation Recovery Program grant for renovations to Chafee Park. (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) ENGINEERING SERVICES: 40. Motion to authorize condemnation against Herminia P. Julian and Lucia B. Esperenza to acquire necessary property on Project Parcel 24. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 41. Motion to approve Georgia Greenspace Program Grant Award Agreement between the State of Georgia, Department of Natural Resources, and Augusta, Georgia, for a grant amount of $592,826.00. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 11 42. Motion to approve Change Order #1 for park improvements relating to the Springfield Village Park Project on Reynolds Street. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 43. Motion to approve participation in the Flood Mitigation Assistance (FMA) Planning Grant. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 44. Motion to approve lease from Augusta to the Southeastern Natural Sciences Academy, Inc. for approximately 13 acres adjoining the constructed wetlands. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 45. Motion to approve Right-of-Way conveyance for Windsor Spring Road Improvement Project, Primary Care Properties, LLC, Tax Map 110-3; Parcel 188-3. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 46. Motion to approve Deed of Dedication with Easement for Ingress and Egress for Augusta Exchange Development – Thomas L. Abernathy, James S. Timberlake and AE III, LLC, Tax Map and Parcel 023-034-3010. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 47. Motion to approve 3-year contract at $24,000 per year with Georgia EPD for Drinking Water Laboratory Services. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 48. Deleted from consent agenda. 49. Motion to approve Change Order #1 in the amount of $42,119 to Blair Construction, Inc. on the 18" Raw Water Main Conversion Project. (Funded by Account Number 509043410-5425110/80110160-5425110) (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 50. Motion to authorize condemnation of a portion of Tax Map 83, Parcel 133, Project Parcel 15, which is owned by Vivian L. Carter, for right-of-way on the Barton Road Improvement Project, Phase II. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 51. Motion to authorize Mayor to execute Consent Order with EPD regarding waste water permit violations and spills. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 52. Motion to approve acceptance of sewer easement from Great Oak, LLC in Wrightsboro Road/Sue Reynolds/Belair Road Drainage Project. (Tax Map 41, Parcel 71.1) (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 53. Motion to approve condemnation of 1351.4 square feet of easement of property located at 301 Berckman Road for 18" raw water conversion and 16" water connection project. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) 54. Motion to approve option for easement for 18" raw water conversion and 16" water connection project from Jake Roseman, Douglas E. Frohman and Vera H. Frohman for $18,700.00. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) PETITIONS & COMMUNICATIONS: 12 55. Motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of the Commission held May 15. ATTORNEY: 56. Deleted from consent agenda. Mr. Mayor: Gentlemen, what’s your pleasure with respect to the consent agenda? Mr. Cheek: Move to approve. Mr. Colclough: Second. Mr. Mayor: Motion to approve with a second. Gentlemen, the Chair would like to pull Item 56. Are there any other items you desire to pull from the agenda? Mr. Shepard? Mr. Shepard: Number 18. Mr. Mayor: 18, Mr. Shepard. Mr. Williams? Mr. Williams: Number 48. Mr. Mayor: Number 48, Mr. Williams. Any others? Nothing else heard. Any discussion with respect to the consent agenda? Mr. Williams: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Yes, Mr. Williams? Mr. Williams: I really don’t want to pull it. I’ve got a question on 33 and 34, I think there may have been some information passed out on our last committee meeting that I didn’t get a copy of about some bids on the equipment for -- Clerk: [inaudible] Mr. Williams: Right. Clerk: I think they’re included in that backup. Mr. Williams: Okay. Mr. Mayor: Why don’t we just pull that, Mr. Williams? That will give you a chance to look at those. Mr. Williams: Okay. 13 Mr. Mayor: 33 and 34? Mr. Williams: 33 and 34. Mr. Mayor: All right. That will give you a chance to look at the back-up. All right, we have a motion to adopt the consent agenda, minus items 18, 33, 34, 48 and 56. All in favor of that motion, please vote aye. Mr. Mays out. Motion carries 9-0. [Items 1-17, 19-32, 35-47, 49-55] Mr. Mayor: All right, we’ll go to Item number 18, Madame Clerk. Clerk: 18. Motion to approve the creation of a Deputy Administrator and an Assistant Administrator for the Administrator’s Office. (Approved by Administrative Service Committee May 29, 2001) Mr. Mayor: Mr. Shepard? Mr. Shepard: Mr. Mayor, thank you. I don’t oppose the creation of the Assistant Administrator and the Deputy Administrator, but I’m concerned that the funding of this is going to impair the mission of the Trees & Landscape Department. The last thing I saw before I came over to the Commission today was the grass and weeds which are maybe three and four feet high in sections of Greene Street between the curb and the sidewalk, and always Trees & Landscape has done an excellent job of maintaining the median in Greene Street, and I’ve always been told that there was a difference, that the other parts that are not as well kept were handled under a division of Public Works, and I’ve been eagerly anticipating, Mr. Mayor, the annual operating plan for Public Works, and I was impressed that Ms. Smith was going to put that out, and I know she’s been very busy. But I’m just thinking that this particular source of funding is going to impair the mission of Trees & Landscape at a time that we’re experiencing summer plant growth. It’s the longest time of the year, and I think anybody with any science background will tell you that this is the time when we are experiencing the greatest demand for our cutting of grass and our trimming of trees and I think we could do a better job of finding a funding source rather than axing the department director of Trees & Landscape, and I would like to send this back for a little more study before we do this to the Engineering Services Committee and let them refine it a little bit and try to accommodate both the Administrator’s wish to have additional personnel, which I do support, and I think a need which I think we need to address, which is basically the scenic beauty of this city. We talk a lot about beautification, we talk about a clean city, and I think it’s time we try to put our money where our mouth is. So if it’s in order, Mr. Mayor, I’d make a motion to send this back to Engineering Services Committee for all those items to be worked out. Mr. Mayor: Is there a second to that motion? 14 Mr. Kuhlke: Second the motion. Mr. Mayor: The motion is seconded by Mr. Kuhlke. Mr. Cheek, your hand is up? Mr. Cheek: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. In a city this size, you would think that after we lost a department head that certainly the second in charge or at least the crews’ supervisors and foremen could realize that the grass needs cutting in a particular location and not have to have a department head hold their hand to get that job done. If we have people in here that we have to baby-sit, that can’t follow through, then perhaps we need to start looking for other people. The employees in this city need to take more ownership, not come in and put in eight hours, but make sure that making Augusta the most beautiful city in the Southeast is their priority. And if they’re not cutting the grass and something that’s so obvious that any one of us can see, and it’s their job, then perhaps they’re not doing their job. So I would hope that the second in command could follow through in this interim. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Beard? Mr. Beard: Mr. Mayor, I feel that we’ve asked people to come in and to do a job, and I think that Mr. Shepard has a point there, but I don’t think it’s the point where we I’m going to offer a substitute motion that we approve Item 18 should hold it up, so as is. Mr. Bridges: Second. Mr. Mayor: Okay. We have a motion to approve, it’s been seconded, which is the substitute motion. Mr. Jerry Brigham, then Mr. Williams. Mr. J. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I think the point Mr. Shepard was trying to make is that if Public Works is the one that’s taking care of the strip in between the sidewalk and the street, and if Trees & Parks are doing their job in the median, obviously we have a management problem if we can’t coordinate two departments or give one whole street to one department to maintain. I think that’s the point that’s being made, not that we have to have management to hold people’s hands to tell them to cut grass. That’s what I heard. Maybe I was mistaken, but I believe that was what was being said. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams? Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I’m in agreement with my cohort, Commissioner Shepard about how bad things look, and this is the time of year, but this city don’t just work, don’t just affect people downtown. If you look at the city as a whole, there are a lot of areas in our city that we need to do some work and try to maintain, and when you talking about grass growing, we got an Administrator here now we trying to support to try to get some people in places to be able to spread out, to do 15 some things, and I understand what he’s saying and I’m in agreement with that, cause I got a serious problem with it. But I’m going to support the substitute motion that we go ahead and do this so we can get some staff people to maybe get in those areas and get in those trenches so we can keep those capable employees. We do have some employees that’s making eight hours and going home, and we got some dedicated employees that are willing and able to work and will work. But I’m in support of the substitute motion that we go ahead and pass this while we got it here. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Bridges? Mr. Bridges: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor. George, it’s my understanding that we’re taking the salary of the department head and not replacing the department head in this position; is that correct? Mr. Kolb: That is correct. All other duties and activities of the Trees & Landscape Department will remain until we can look at their work plan, work activities for the next budget cycle. Mr. Bridges: And all other funding will remain? Mr. Kolb: Yes, sir. Mr. Bridges: Mr. Mayor, I share Mr. Shepard’s concern with the beauty of our city. I don’t think that really streamlining Trees & Parks in regards to this one position will hinder or improve or hurt the looks of our city. I think that this is a good move to assist the Administrator in areas that he needs to be assisted in, and areas that I at one time I opposed, and others supported, and I believe now that they had the wiser view in regards to Assistant Administrators. And I think it’s a move that we need to go ahead and make. Just as a random thought in regards to Trees & Parks, I think it’s very important, whether it goes to Recreation or whether it goes to Public Works, that it maintain itself as a separate body, that it not be absorbed into either department, but it is designated and can be recognized as Trees & Parks, and I think that’s critically important to their performance of their job and the beauty of our city. Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Mr. Shepard? Mr. Shepard: Mr. Mayor, what I’m concerned about is we have some nice signs on the city and county limits here that say welcome to Augusta, the Garden City that we’re proud of. I think that’s going to be a hollow praise if we don’t attend to our business of beautification. I guess I’m selfish. I want it all. I want to see a stronger Administrator’s office, one that is adequately staffed, but I think this is impairing the mission of the Trees & Parks. I don’t see the input here of the Tree Commission. I’ve heard from several folks saying that the mission of Public Works is somewhat different from the mission of the Trees & Parks Department, and I think we as Commissioners shouldn’t have to be calling in these problems with the grass in the medians, the grass on the curbs. I’m just concerned that this is going to impair the mission of the Trees & 16 Parks Department, so I don’t see why we can’t send it back and have all these issues accommodated. Like I say, I’d like to do it all, I’d like to do it in an orderly fashion, but I’m afraid we’re going to impair the mission of Trees & Parks at a time when we critically need it, and that’s the summer growing season. Thank you. Mr. Mayor: All right. Mr. Henry Brigham? Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, it looks like to me that we are trying to pull the rug out from under our Administrator before he even gets started. It looks like to me if he’s asking for help, then we come back and say to the Administrator this is what we want you to do, rather than pulling the rug out from under him before he gets started. With that in mind, I move for the order of the day on the substitute motion. Mr. Mayor: All right, the question has been called on the substitute motion. Let the record reflect that Mr. Mays has joined us. The substitute motion is from Commissioner Beard, which is to approve the recommendation of the creation of those two positions in the Administrator’s office. All in favor of that motion, please vote aye. (Vote on substitute motion) Mr. J. Brigham and Mr. Shepard vote No. Motion carries 8-2. Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Madame Clerk. What we’d like to do since Commissioner Mays is here and we’ve got some people who came in for this item, we’d like to move ahead, if we could, to Item number 58. Clerk: PUBLIC SERVICES: 58. Motion to approve proceeding with the design and construction of a combined community center/library facility at Diamond Lakes Regional Park. MORE DETAILED INFORMATION WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE MEETING. (No recommendation from Public Services Committee May 7, 2001, postponed from the May 15 meeting.) Mr. Mayor: I spoke this week with Commissioner Cheek and Commissioner Colclough, who were the two Commissioners intimately involved in this on opposite sides. What we’re going to do limit debate on each side to no more than 15 minutes. Mr. Cheek, would you like to go first with your presentation, and I’ll allow you to call up anybody else who you would like to have speak to this. I think some Library people are here and so forth. Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, what I’d like to do is allow the players that have prepared the presentation to present their presentation and then allow more discussion, but I would like to have closing comments. 17 Mr. Mayor: All right. We will discuss it as Mayor and Commission after the presentations. I’m trying to limit the presentations so we’re not here all afternoon. Mr. Cheek, I’m going to turn the floor over to you for 15 minutes to go ahead and go through any presentations and call upon any people you want to. Mr. Cheek: Okay. We have the Director of Recreation and Parks, Mr. Tom Beck, here and members of the Library board and the Library Director here. And so, Tom, if you will begin, and then Tom Sutherland and company, if you guys will follow right in. Mr. Beck: Thank you. Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, what we’ve done is put together some further information in this regard of the joint community center and library project. We’ve got some visual photos here of Iola Community Center which a group from Augusta visited back in April. It is outside of Chicago and it’s been in operation since 1993. This is a shot of the actual main entrances. This is off of the main road, the actual entrance in, from access, is on the other side of the building you’re seeing there, but that is actually part of the parking lot area. This shot here is actually the side of the center that enters into the library. This has, the facility has two separate entrances. The trellis area, the white there, is the entrance into the library side of the building. This is a shot of the lobby area at the -- I believe this is at the library side, isn’t it? This is the recreation side, okay. They actually have two main lobbies with this facility. This is a shot of the recreation side. These doors enter into multi-purpose rooms and game rooms in the recreation side. This is a shot again of the main lobby, the reception area for the recreation side. Going further on back, as the person is walking back with his back towards us is actually back toward the locker room area of the facility. This is a short of the lobby area again with the sitting area and the reception area. This is the shot of the library side. This is the main lobby area as you’re coming off of that entrance from the outside into the library portion of the facility. This is a short of the interior of the library. This is a short of an upstairs fitness center. This was a very multi-use fitness center with weights and aerobic rooms that were actually upstairs on a second level. It’s another shot of that same area of the facility. This is a short of the main gymnasium within the facility. That is an elevated walking track that goes around, I believe it was an eighth of a mile walking track that goes around the facility indoors. This is a shot of the gymnastics area, very large gymnastics program. The actual right side, the right wall there is actually where the library portion starts in the facility. This is a very active room within the recreation side, which does adjoin onto the library portion or is adjacent to the library portion of the facility. This is a shot of one of the interior multi-use rooms that had joint use between the recreation side and the library aspects of the facility. This is a shot of the outdoor playground on the other side from the library. Another shot from that side. This is a little floor plan that will give you maybe a little better idea about how the facility is laid out. Moving from my right, this area in here is where all the parking area is, where the cursor is being pointed there, that’s all the joint parking out in that area. The area you see coming in toward the building, you can see two separate entrances. One, the library side there, and one, the recreation side. And as you come in, say from the library side, you come into the facility, that is the main lobby area for the library, then you enter into the library from that hallway. To go into the recreation area, you go down a common 18 hallway into the gymnastics area that we just saw, into actually a dual or either three basketball court complex. It’s actually got two full courts in it. And you come on down the hallway on the right side there, you’ve got multi-use rooms that had joint use with obviously recreation and the library. You come on down the hallway, more into the recreation side, and you have the common lobby area that serves the recreation side with multi-use rooms and stairwells that go actually upstairs to the other level where the fitness center is at. Going on to another facility, this is a joint facility in McCallan, Texas. There are actually two facilities in McCallan just like this. They are actually duplicate facilities. They opened in January of this year. In the yellow, and I guess before we get to that, you can see the circular common parking area with obviously a common entrance in the facility with a drop-off turnaround into a main reception area. The area where the cursor’s at is one joint reception area that’s commonly used by both the recreation side and the library side. A citizen would come into that area and either go into the library side, in the yellow, or go over into the recreation side, which is in the blue. There is a common courtyard in between both. It helps reduce any common noise elements, I suppose. A little floor plan, just a little closer floor plan of what we just talked about. You’ve got the library element off of the main reception area, then you go into the recreation element with meeting rooms, activity rooms, and then into a gymnasium area. This is a smaller facility than the Illinois facility. This is 32,000 square foot, whereas the Iola facility was about 70,000 square feet. This is an outside photo of the McCallan, Texas, facility. So that’s a little visual presentation of facilities around the country that do have joint community center and libraries. The information that Ms. Bonner passed out is a little more specific information regarding if one facility was built on one piece of ground versus two separate sites. And of course, these are estimates because obviously to get into the exact details, you would have to get into the bidding process, but these are the best estimates by architects that we have asked to come up with those figures. So I’d be welcome to entertain any questions regarding this information that you may have. Mr. Cheek: Just one comment, I think, that bears mentioning s the Iola library is so successful in this recreation center that they are currently planning to double the size of it within this calendar year. Mr. Sutherland. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I’m Tom Sutherland. I am the Chair of the Regional Library board. I’m a member of the Augusta Richmond County Library board. We think it is fiscally responsible for us to build a combined facility because the Recreation Department and the Library get more when we join forces than if we either one did it separately. We think it’s economical. Obviously you save money by building on county land rather than going out and purchasing land. We feel like this is a community-support concept. We did a survey through South Augusta schools. We got 974 yeses versus 245 nos in support in support of a combined facility. We sent a representative with the Recreation Department to visit a facility, and a copy of that report was provided to the Commission. I think the Library board is comfortable that we have done our homework, evaluated a joint facility in a responsible manner, and recommend a joint facility. Thank you. 19 Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, what we have before us is a government body that has come and asked to be a partnership with this government in an effort to work together to provide not the same as but something better than anyone else has in this area. Rather than having the same stand-along library or the same stand-alone community center, we have the opportunity to develop not just an average, but a state-of-the-art facility to meet the needs of the people in all South Augusta. The location at Diamond Lakes is directly in the center of the service area. It’s equal distance, plus or minus a couple of tenths of a mile from Meadowbrook Drive to Hephzibah main street, it provides access to the Willis Foreman Road corridor to Brown Road, Highway 1, Tobacco Road. The vistas that are available, depending on the site selected at Diamond Lakes are breathtaking. This provides an opportunity for us to do not just what is right for today, for in ten years or in 20 years, which is the real question, did we do the right thing? We control the property around this facility, we control its development and growth, we control the neighbors, and if the library should decide to grow as they did in Iola, we also have land there ready to grow. I think it’s the best site. There have been a lot of months of thought put into this and research, and I urge you, my colleagues, to please support this. It is in the best interest of not only Augusta, but of south Richmond County. Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Mr. Cheek. We’ll hear from Mr. Colclough and his guests. Mr. Colclough, you’ve got the floor. Mr. Colclough: Thank you. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I’m going to let Mr. Lowrey, who is representing the neighborhood association alliance today to speak. I reserve the right to have a closing comment. Mr. Lowrey? Mr. Mayor: Mr. Lowrey, if you would give us your name and address for the record, please. Mr. Lowrey: Thank you. Gene Lowrey. 3946 Ellen Street. I stand before you today and I’m going to ask you to delay your vote. I don’t have any slides and all this nice stuff. It looked real good, but we are the people that have to use it. Those same slides that you saw there will look the same if it was on Windsor Spring and Tobacco Road area. And I think that that’s the place that it should be. I was on the one cent sales tax board, and we were told that the library would be at the Windsor Spring/Tobacco Road area, and we fought very hard to get the funds to put that south Augusta library there. I have no problem with developing Diamond Lakes, but I don’t see what Diamond Lakes has to do with the library. I don’t see what a community center or whatever has to do with the peace and quiet and the study concentration level of a library. And if I just ask all of you, all of you that have not been to Diamond Lakes and have not seen the area and have not been to Windsor Spring and Tobacco Road, and I know most of you have, to go out and compare the two areas. Now you have at least 10 to 12 subdivisions right off Tobacco Road there that would almost be in walking distance of the library. You have Jamestown Elementary School right up the road there. You have Windsor Spring Elementary School. You have Tobacco Road Elementary School. All of them are right there in that vicinity. And not to say that Fort Gordon is right up the road there. You know about breaking ground there, so you have another school. And all that is right there 20 in that area of Tobacco Road and Windsor Spring Road. Now I was told that the reason that they said they chose Diamond Lakes at this point when they didn’t take it, that the deal fell through with the land that was donated for the Windsor Spring/Tobacco Road area, I worked -- me and a few other people worked very hard last week and we got Mrs. [inaudible] to re-donate the land. She had given this city three acres of land in the Tobacco Road/Windsor Spring area. Now you know how much that land costs. For somebody to donate three acres of land, I think we need to look at it. And that’s all I’m asking you to do, is take some time, look at this thing. That’s all I’m asking. And I have sheets of petition here, and I talked to some of the same people, talked to some of the same people that signed, voted yes on putting it at Diamond Lakes, and they told me later that they didn’t really know where Diamond Lakes was. And some of those same people are on these petitions here. When they went out, and I didn’t try to pull their arms, I told them to go out and look at the area. When they went out and they came back and they told me that they did not want to have the children go out at Diamond Lakes and not at this time. There ain’t nothing wrong with Diamond Lakes, but I think this is a better area for it and I’m asking you to delay that and I know that the stipulations in the donation of the land might not be all that you want, but give us a chance to negotiate with Ms. [inaudible], because she’s not asking for anything. All she want to do is give the land. So I think if you have some things that you can’t live with in this proposal that she donating the land, I think we can get that out. But give us time to look at this. And that’s all I’m asking for, for time from you all. It wouldn’t do any good to build this beautiful facility at Diamond Lakes and the people in the neighborhood will not support it and will not utilize it. Then you’ve got a big building out there. They will go out there to play ball. Of course they will. But I’m talking about where people to go and study. I thank you for hearing me and I pray that you would give it a second thought. Just give me some time or just give yourself some time to do the right thing. Thank you. Mr. Colclough: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, these folks have put in a lot of hard work on this library, not just a few months ago. This is a project that started a couple of years ago with Pride & Progress. And we’ve done a lot of work on it. I support Diamond Lakes wholeheartedly. I support my colleague down here wholeheartedly. But this is one project that I do believe if you put it where Mr. Lowrey is suggesting that it be put, it would be much more user-friendly to the community, and I’m asking my colleagues to honor Mr. Lowrey’s request. I see Ms. Sizemore is at the podium. She is also a member of the Library board. I’d like to give her an opportunity. Ms. Sizemore: Frances Sizemore. 3505 Greenwood Drive. I’m also on the Library board representing District 4 and also I’m on the Regional Library board. Also president of Pepperidge Neighborhood Association. I just want to bring a couple of things to light. The gentleman that did a survey of all these combined centers was supposed to be here today. I don’t know what happened. He’s not been here. But I think it needs to be brought to light that the one in Iola, Illinois that they went to visit is right in the middle of a neighborhood, which is a renovated school, and this is also a very wealthy neighborhood. And in the survey that he conducted, and this is Pete Fulcher which most of you probably know, most of them were in neighborhoods, in renovated schools. Now they don’t put schools way out in a district like Diamond Lakes. Again, I ask you until 21 we can get back with Ms. [inaudible], she’s had some health problems and we haven’t been able to get to her, so I’m asking you for a delay on it. Thank you. Mr. Colclough: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. Mr. Mayor: Thank you, Mr. Colclough. We’ll open the floor now for the Commissioners for discussion on this item and the Chair will certainly entertain any motions. Mr. Bridges? Mr. Bridges: Mr. Mayor, I’d like to ask Tom. Well, first off, are we moving from a community center at Diamond Lakes to a community center and gymnasium and library? Is that what we’re moving toward now? Is that what the plan is? Mr. Beck: Actually, we don’t have a plan. That is -- the original plan that we had from the recreation side was to build a major community center with gymnasiums and activity rooms and potentially swimming pool attached and a master plan concept, a full- service community center. And when we were asked to look at the joint community center library concept, that’s what we’ve done, and we have, at your request, that you voted. Mr. Bridges: In regards to the plat of land that we’ve got there now, where will this community center/library be located at? And the reason I’m asking that, I don’t have any problem with it being on Windsor Spring Road so it’s visible. I believe the visibility of it would make it more attractive, more likely to be used by the public. Where do you have plans for where you’re going to locate it? And if we approve this without plans, are we locked into it? Mr. Beck: Well, I guess to answer your first question, we do not have the exact site located. I think that’s something that ourselves and the Library board would need to come up with proper site, while working with the design team to come up with the best and most suitable site for traffic control, visibility, that type of thing. We just purchased 83 additional acres at Diamond Lakes. We now have almost 300 acres at the park. There is a possibility of potentially purchasing a few more acres to give us more frontage out there should that need to be the case. But as to the exact site, we haven’t selected the exact site, although I will say that part of our looking into this issue would be that the athletic area of the park, which is where the ten sports fields are at, from a traffic control standpoint, it would not make the best sense to put the facility back where that much traffic is at. That’s one of the good things about having 300 acres. We’ve got the capability of putting it more up toward the Windsor Spring Road area, for more visibility. Mr. Bridges: Now if we’ve, of course, approved this idea in concept, what actually are we doing today? Will the plans come back to us for approval, even if we approve this today? Mr. Beck: I think what we’re asking, we’re asking for direction. We have plans obviously with what was in the referendum and what you as a Commission approved for 22 a community center at Diamond Lakes. The Library board has plans for a south Augusta library. We need direction as to whether or not you want us to build a joint facility, and if you so voted on that day, that is where we would move the design team, which we’ve got to get on board because right now we haven’t been able to get a design team on board because we don’t know the scope of the project. This design team, should it be a joint facility, would be designing a joint project. If you decide not to do that, then the Library board would choose their architect, separate architect for a project, and we would select ours and move forward. So what you would be voting on should you vote to move forward with it would give us direction to move forward with a joint project. And we would be coming back first with a design contract, mutual contract between the Library board and ourselves, and then from there, the next thing you would see would be the preliminary actual design plans before we moved forward to bid it. Mr. Bridges: Design plans would have to be approved by this Commission? Mr. Beck: That’s correct. Mr. Bridges: Okay. Another question, I guess Richard or Mr. Lowrey, the land that Ms. [inaudible], I believe her name is given, is if I looked at the plat, was reading the plat right that you mailed out, that’s behind I believe it’s the Southern Natural Gas place off Tobacco Road? I mean it’s not on the main drag of Tobacco Road, it’s off a side street behind that development; is that correct? Mr. Lowrey: [inaudible] Mr. Bridges: Okay. Mr. Lowrey: [inaudible] Mr. Mayor: Gene, could you come up to the microphone so we can get you on the record, please. Mr. Lowrey: She owns all that land and that’s why I ask for a delay, that if it’s not where we want it, that we can talk to her and I think that we can get her to give the land in a different area. All that land in the back back there belongs to Ms. [inaudible]. Mr. Bridges: That just seems to be the -- you’re got the same problem there you’d have it you put it down in Diamond Lakes. It’s off the main drag, it’s not visible, it would decrease the likeliness of I guess passer-by usage of the library. Mr. Lowrey: But she owns that right on Windsor. That land goes all the way over to Windsor Spring, too. You know, right off Tobacco Road and Windsor Spring. Mr. Bridges: Okay. Mr. Lowrey: On by Eckerd Drug Store, if you know where that is. 23 Mr. Bridges: Yes, sir. Mr. Lowrey: That’s hers also, so that’s what I was saying. All we’re asking for is time. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Colclough? Mr. Colclough: That plat you’ve got, I think that was not the correct piece of property that she offered us the first time. I think that was a piece of land that the agent drew in and mailed out to us. But my question is why approve something when we don’t have a plan, nor do we have a piece of property to put it on. How are you going to design a building without having a piece of land to put it on? And that’s my thinking. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Cheek? Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, if I remember construction techniques, you first select the site before you go into any detailed design work. We do have 286 acres of land already that’s in place. To correct the record on comments earlier, Iola Community Center was built from scratch for $6.5 million. You need to add this to the record. It’s not an old school. It hasn’t been renovated from an old school. It is in a very nice neighborhood, pretty much like West Augusta. But the ideas of noise, ladies and gentlemen, I’ll quote the director of the library there when asked the question is there any problem from the noise, from the pre-school program, large pre-school program, the gymnasium, the gymnastics center, and she said no, not any more than any other branch. She also said about the combined facility that if something were to happen, it’s really nice to have someone down the hall you can call on. We’ve seen these projects, again as the opponents of this project have said, we don’t have a plan. We’ve thought this through and we’ve taken a very reasoned approach to this project. I would think that two-and-a- years, if we were planning on using a different site, that I would have the site selected and a plan in place and have discussed it with the Library board and been a lot further along than give us more time and we’ll see what we can do. Clearly, in 20 years this whole area will be completely grown up. There will be houses on Willis Foreman Road which will have an entrance to the park. There will be houses on the newly-five-laned Windsor Spring Road. It will continue to grow towards Hephzibah. And by this, we have to consider the needs of the Tobacco Road corridor, but we also have to consider those south of Tobacco Road in building this facility. Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know what site we’ll pick, but there are some sites out there on Diamond Lakes, and I assure you that this Commission a few years ago took a change from just half-building to building things right, and if you go to any of our latest construction projects you can see that. It will be right, built right, on the prettiest site. And the vision that you get from the windows of the library and the community center won’t be the BFI dumpster of the store in front. It will be a lake and a green belt and other things that are aesthetically pleasing and are conducive to a peaceful environment. Soundproofing was created a long time ago. Managing if your children, if you go to any community center, if it’s managed properly you don’t have kids running around like wild Indians. There’s been so much 24 misinformation. All I’m asking you as a Commission to do is why not let’s have something on the cutting edge, something that is better together than apart? Something that will set us apart from the rest of the surrounding area as leaders, with something that is a proven entity in other cities. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Shepard? Mr. Shepard: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. For about three-and-a-half years I’ve been this Commission’s representative over at the Library board and I’ve encouraged them at every step of the way to think this thing through and be orderly in the development of a proposal for the south Augusta branch, and I think that they have done that. I have been satisfied and I think that you Commission members should know, and Tom, as Chairman, correct me if I’m wrong, that this concept has always passed the Library board overwhelmingly, usually with only one dissenting vote. And that is a collection of individuals who represent all Districts. And I’ve been encouraging them all along to cooperate with the Recreation Department and to do something in cooperation with the Recreation Department not unlike the Garrett Gym project was done with the School Board and the gym in the Seventh District. None of these are in my District, but what impresses me is the figures that Recreation & Parks have put out for the potential construction savings and the potential operational economies which are involved in a joint facility, and if I read Tom’s memo right you have an annual savings of $25,000- 75,000. Our budget is going to grow and I know that, but I also know when we have an opportunity to reduce that budget growth and to pursue economies of operation, we should not fail to take advantage of that opportunity. And I think that the Diamond Lakes concept satisfied that operational economy. It is true to what the Library board, the overwhelming Library board sentiment is, and I plan to vote -- if Mr. Cheek makes the appropriate motion, I plan to vote in favor of the Diamond Lakes concept today. Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams? Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My questions relate to the recreation side of it and the library side. I need somebody to explain to me about the play around. When you talk about the ball fields and when you don’t have a specific place in mind and when you said about a joint venture, my mind goes back to a ball field, then a building, and people playing ball and people running in from the playing ball. I mean nobody has explained to me where those locations -- I seen the sketches and they look great. But I just need to know from the Rec side, when it comes to the recreation part of it and not the indoor part with the weights and all that stuff, Tom, I’m talking about when it comes to the ball field, when it comes to the traffic and that kind of thing, in your mind, can you help me out, can you show me, can you tell me how this facility, the one you went to visit, how is that set up as far as the play area? Cause I’m thinking the kids going to be running, and they say they ain’t wild Indians, but I know a lot of them that’s running around. I just need to see how the play area comes in effect with the educational part of it. 25 Mr. Beck: Well, as far as the athletic fields and the outdoor element of the park, I think as I mentioned earlier, the athletic areas, when you go into Diamond Lakes, the actual park road going into the athletic area is about three-quarters of a mile, a half-mile to three-quarters before you get to the athletic area. And we now own all the property on the left side of the entrance road going all the way into the park. Almost 300 acres. So again, it would not be my recommendation to place the facility with that kind of traffic flow which would include the athletic area. This facility, in my opinion, should be built up closer to Windsor Spring Road on that part of the property. Now play areas and playgrounds and things like that would, I think, have to be a part of a community center element to have that capability for day camps and after-school programs there inside the center, but again, my concept would be as is with these other facilities, that the playground area would be on the opposite side of the library area. So that would not be impacted and that was what was done in Illinois at the facility we looked at. That facility also had two athletic fields that utilized the same parking lots as the library and the community center joint facility, so they had athletic field there also that were all together, whereas I think we’ve got more property here to separate some of those elements out. Mr. Mayor: The Chair has a couple of questions for you. Mr. Cheek described this project as cutting edge. Do we have any idea what the cost for this combined project would be and what the cost of separate projects would be? Mr. Beck: Well, the combined budgets of both the library and the recreation side is $6.175 million. That’s combined. I believe it’s $3.8 million for Recreation and $2.2 million to $2.3 million from the Library funding, which also includes some Phase III carryover monies. Mr. Mayor: Do both the Library board and the City have adequate funding to pay for this 100%? Do we already have the money in hand or identified? Mr. Beck: As far as the capital monies? Mr. Mayor: Right. Mr. Beck: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It is identified in the SPLOST. Mr. Mayor: [inaudible] the Library, too? Tom, is that right? Mr. Sutherland: [inaudible], $1,625,000 is construction, furnishings and equipment. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Mr. Kolb, I asked your office to prepare for me a cost analysis and doing a design bid versus a design build for this project to see if we could save additional costs. If we’re going to spend $6.2 million, the architectural fees are going to approach half a million dollars on this. We can I think probably realize a substantial savings by doing a design build. Have you all prepared that information for us yet? 26 Mr. Kolb: We are in the process of preparing it now. I asked Mr. Beck to look into it and do a comparison between the traditional way of constructing a facility, as well as the design bid concept. Mr. Mayor: I would certainly like to, for my own information, have that information before we proceeded with hiring somebody to do a design in the traditional manner, if we can save money doing it the cutting edge way. Mr. Kolb: Absolutely. We’ll bring that information back to you as soon as it’s available. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Mr. Cheek? Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, to answer a question in the motion. One of the sites between -- that may be selected and the ball fields is over a quarter of a mile. So you can Mr. Mayor, I make see an adequate separation between the two types of park facilities. a motion that we approve with proceeding with the design and construction of the combined facility library center/community center at Diamond Lakes Regional Park. Mr. Shepard: Second. Mr. Mayor: Motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Mr. Colclough: Mr. Mayor, I’d make a substitute motion that we delay this project until further notice from me. Mr. Mayor: Is there a second to that motion? Motion does for lack of a second? Any further discussion on the original motion? Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Yes, Mr. Mays? Mr. Mays: A couple of observations. I guess since I’m the last survivor of Diamond Lakes original deal of how it got started. Commissioners from Districts 4, 6 and 8 in the original concept of Diamond Lakes, and one thing about things not being written in stone is that you’ve got the flexibility to change as you see progressive measures that you need to add on or take away. One of the questions, and the reason why I didn’t make a second to the motion, the substitute motion, one thing I learned how to do, Mr. Mayor, a long time ago when I got here was count. I got whipped enough times 14 to 2, 15 to 1, I know how those things work. But it’s a simple question in terms of, one, I think that both Rec and Transportation have gone back and have tried diligently to answer, and I think it’s something in reference to access to this facility and of further access for transportation in the south Augusta area period. Tom, what -- [inaudible] 27 answer this or you, where are we standing with that part of it? Because I know that this was something that we talked about in terms of the fact of this being a regional facility, that particularly with young people particularly and elderly people who may want to use public transport, from areas that might not be able to access it there. Where are y’all standing with that and what’s on the drawing board to kind of blend this? Because I think you’ve got an excellent opportunity for something creative and maybe some cost savings, but I want to make sure that folk are able to get to it. You know, if it’s an event, whether it’s at one facility or the other, that having four Districts that I represent directly, I want to make sure that somebody in east Augusta needs to transfer beyond Tobacco Road or if they in the Hill area to do that, wherever they can do that. Where do you all figure the transportation in? I know that’s not permanently answered, but just for the point of access, I ask that for the record. Mr. Beck: I’m going to have to refer to Mr. Johnson on that. At the request of the committee, we did -- Mr. Johnson did look into the transit route issue going out to Diamond Lakes and I refer to Heywood on that question. Mr. Johnson: Right now, Mr. Mays, where we stand is that we’re waiting on a decision by the board. We have looked at a route that left from the mall, went down Deans Bridge Road to west Richmond Hill Road, out Richmond Hill Road, to Windsor Spring, on out that way, and then the other route that we looked at was to come down Deans Bridge Road to Meadowbrook, Meadowbrook across to Windsor Spring Road, and on out to Diamond Lakes. And the first proposal was that I gave some costs and estimates, and both estimates was of somewhere in the neighborhood of around $95,000 and then that would be roughly for six days a week service for approximately eight hours a day. That could be modified up or down. But that was attached to the original proposal. Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor, the reason why I wanted that brought out, even though that’s not necessarily something that’s on the table today, is that if we’ve got an opportunity to save some money on one side of this equation, we’ve been trying to figure out how then do we get money over to the Transit and in a creative way that will not just necessarily service this particular entity, but of getting us in a public transportation mode that gets us also beyond Tobacco Road, and I guess you can kind of say I’ve been sidebarred [inaudible] this deal in terms of having to be on the short end and get [inaudible]. We want to make sure that if we’re moving in that direction, this is an opportunity not just to deal with the project at hand in terms of savings, but if we can save in one area of it, this may also be an opportunity to get Mr. Johnson some money over on the transport side that will not only be for the one project that you are servicing in that area, but of being able to get transportation extended to the south Richmond County side as well, and that’s I just wanted to bring that in for the record. I thank the two departments for working together on that and in trying to get it done. And Tom, I don’t have to tell you, whatever y’all can save on one side, I’m going to be trying to hustle for Heywood on the other side of trying to get it, because you know I can remember for years when we were separated and one government didn’t contribute at all and we got to a point of getting a subsidy out there and now we need to act like a real city. If we going to 28 be put something there, we going to go state-of-the art one way, then it needs to be accessible and we need to be able to get public transportation out into that area, and this may be a creative way where we save money on one hand of dumping it over into Transit and being able to get us that way, too. And I think we can get two things, actually three things out of one, instead of two out of one. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Jerry Brigham? Mr. J. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, I got to ask some questions cause I’m lost on part of this, especially with the neighborhood’s concerns. I’ve read the proposal and I need some responses from the neighborhood of some of the things I saw in that. I want to know if the neighborhood alliance is in agreement with everything in there, delay this or not. And that’s about the request to change of zoning to light industrial for that tract of land. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Lowrey, would you come up to the microphone, please? Mr. Lowrey: Yes. There are some things that might need to be revisited or in that proposal, and that’s why -- we just got her, I spoke to her and she had stated that she didn’t want to do it because the first time she thought it was a done deal and it wasn’t, I think, and then she -- I talked her into doing it again, and that’s the last I have been able to talk to her about it, and I haven’t had a chance to get back to her to try to negotiate with her or Mr. Colclough, to try to negotiate with her. There are parts in there that we don’t like. To try to take them out. Mr. J. Brigham: I don’t believe that your membership would be in favor of changing to light industrial in that zoning. Mr. Lowrey: Well, I said there are some things that [inaudible]. Mr. J. Brigham: The other thing that I’m concerned about is there is over a million dollar road that is being proposed in that proposal also that this Commission would build, and I don’t know where the funding for that million dollar road is going to come from. If we’re going to fund a million -- if we’ve got a million-and-a-half dollars for a library and we’re going to build a million dollar road to get the land to buy the library, I don’t see where we can do that, and I don’t believe -- there is also, from what I saw in that proposal, there was a reversion in five years. I don’t believe that will be money at the end of five years to rebuild this branch of the Augusta Library if we don’t build it with the $2 million that are there now. I don’t think we need to take Library money for road building. Mr. Lowrey: What I’d like to say is that the proposal that was sent, like Mr. Colclough said, was that Mrs. [inaudible] is about 80-something years old, and she has a realtor that is taking care of most of her business. And she stated to me that even in the first proposal that she wasn’t aware of some of the things that he was asking for. And 29 that’s why I said that you would need to talk to her instead of just directly talking to him. And I’ll refer my other comments to Mr. Colclough. Mr. Colclough: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Brigham, there’s quite a few things in that proposal that not only the neighborhood association don’t agree with, I don’t agree with. And that is -- the road is one, the light industry rezoning is another, and that is the reason why we have to revisit the project, or we won’t be able to visit the project. But that’s what we need to do is take out -- I know about the million dollar road. I know about the light industry. And those are some of the things that we needed to take out of this project if the woman is going to give us the piece of land. No, I don’t agree with the million dollar road, I don’t agree with the light industry rezoning. But that is what we needed to talk about. Right now, that’s a moot point. Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, I move to call the question. Mr. Mayor: The question has been called on the motion from Commissioner Cheek, which is to approve proceeding with the design and construction of a combined community center/library facility at Diamond Lakes Regional Park. All in favor of that motion, please vote aye. Mr. Colclough votes No. Motion carries 9-1. Mr. Mayor: That takes us back to our consent agenda. Commissioner Williams, we’ve pulled items 33 and 34 so you could look at the backup material. 33. Motion to approve the acquisition of One (1) 35-Ton Trailer for Utilities Department – Construction Division from Wallace Trailer Company of Valdosta, Georgia for $27,900.00 (lowest bid offer on Bid 01-083). (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) 34. Motion to approve the acquisition of One (1) Mid Sized Excavator for Utilities Department - Construction & Maintenance Division from Southern Power Company of Augusta, Georgia for $101,373.00 (lowest bid offer on Bid-084). (Approved by Finance Committee May 29, 2001) Mr. Williams: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. I have had an opportunity to do that, and I’m satisfied with that. We’ve got some different type of equipment and some different vendors and kind of threw me off for a minute, but I think I’ve been satisfied with that. Mr. Mayor: All right. We will entertain a motion then. Mr. Bridges: I move for approval Items 33 and 34. Mr. Shepard: Second. 30 Mr. Mayor: Motion and second. Any further discussion? All in favor of those items, please vote aye. Motion carries 10-0. Mr. Mayor: The next item is item 48, Madame Clerk. Clerk: 48. Motion to approve construction budget in the amount of $40,000 and sharing of cost of 10" water line and fire hydrant for New Zion Hill Baptist Church in the amount of $14,048.89. (Approved by Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) Mr. Mayor: Commissioner Williams? Mr. Williams: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. That $14,000, is Max here? Mr. Mayor: Mr. Hicks? Mr. Richards is here. Mr. Williams: Mr. Richards is here? Mr. Mayor: Mr. Richards, are you familiar with this project? Mr. Kolb: Mr. Mayor, I think I may be able to answer the question if you ask it. Mr. Williams: Okay. What had happened when I went out with the deacon from that church and we looked at running a water line, a fireplug, from one fireplug maybe half a block down to the other one. And the amount, the $40,000, share the cost with the church, and the church, I think, an additional $14,000; isn’t that right, George? Mr. Kolb: That is correct. Mr. Williams: And the total, what we got as the total of that? Mr. Kolb: If you’re talking about -- the church paid $14,000 of the $40,000. Mr. Williams: The church paid what now? Mr. Kolb: They paid a share, $14,000 of the $40,000. Mr. Williams: They paid a share, $14,000 out of $40,000? Mr. Kolb: That’s correct. 31 Mr. Williams: Okay. And I’ve got no problem. We, I’m not in that business but Mabus Construction who is doing this for us, I think there are some things that we need to add into that contract. There ought to be a time line in there, George, plus there ought to be a factor with no change orders coming back. I think that that is an excessive amount to run a straight water line from one corner to half a block straight down. I understand construction is high. But I would like to see a time line in there when they start and when they finish. The church is waiting on that, plus we need to know -- a note in there about a change order. We keep coming back with these change orders, and we talking about a 10” pipe across one driveway. And I don’t know they going to bore that or they going to go across that concrete or how they going do it. But if that would save us some money, I think it be cheaper to put some concrete back and then to bore up under that, but I mean, we need those two stipulations in that contract. A time line as when they going start and when they going to finish. And definitely no more change orders. Don’t come back with -- I mean we had too much of that. These people been doing work for us for many, many years, and we get a job started and that’s not going half a block. I just wanted that to be noted that we expect them to do it for that price if that what it going be. And that price is really -- Mr. Kolb: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Mr. Kolb? Mr. Kolb: Well, certainly we’ll bring you back a scheduled completion. I’m not sure what we can do with the change order but we’ll certainly work towards that in terms of prohibiting them. I’m hoping that you understand that the church’s share is just for what they requested. A 6” line. And that is the cost equivalent of a 6” line. However, for our purposes and for future expansion, we wanted to increase the size of the line, as well as the length of it. And so that is why we are paying the lion’s share of the cost of that project. Mr. Williams: Okay. Then I’m really confused a little bit, George, cause what happened in the beginning, they initially wanted the church to take the line all the way to their property and Mr. Richards was there, I think, with Mr. Cheeks and along with a couple of members from the church. And it was going to be some $27,000 cost to the church. But on our right-of-way, less than a half a block away, there is a fireplug that we talked about and the church only needed a 6” line. But the city, the water department agreed to put a 10” line down the right-of-way where it would stop in front of their church. Now this is a continuation which we going need later on cause there are other businesses and everything else in that area. But it’s going to be a 10” line is what you’re saying, right? Mr. Kolb: Yes, it is. Mr. Williams, I can’t give you the background but possibly Mr. Richards can, cause I’m not familiar with the history. Mr. Richards: Thank you. Commissioner Williams, let me explain what the difference is. The 10” line that we’re requesting to extend down needs to be tied into a 32 10” line, which is across Georgetown Drive, which calls for boring and jacking under Georgetown Drive. But I asked the contractor to also give me a quote of picking up the additional 6” line where it stops now, right at the fire hydrant that you referred to, extending the amount of pipe down to in front of the church, and that was the sum of $14,048. The additional is to jack and bore Georgetown Drive to tie into a 10” water main, extend the 6” down to the same location. Mr. Williams: I’m not there yet, Mr. [inaudible]. You going to Georgetown, you’re saying, with the 10” line that you need to go to. I think what I’m worried about, the amount of money that the church is going to have to assume with the necessary line to get the water to that building. Cause they added on to their sanctuary and they cannot open it or they cannot occupy it until they get the water there. But are you saying that we going further with this line; is that right? Mr. Richards: No, sir. I asked them to quote me the cost of the 6” line to pick up just what the church has required. Mr. Williams: Okay. Mr. Richards: To pick up for the existing fire hydrant and extend 400 some-odd feet and set another fire hydrant in front of the church property to meet their requirements. Mr. Williams: Okay. Mr. Richards: All three bid came in. Low bid was $14,048. Mr. Williams: Okay. Okay. I’m getting somewhere. And how much of that is the church -- cause the church made an agreement and they was willing to partnership with the city to alleviate us from some of that cost. I’m saying -- from what I’m reading I’m thinking the church is paying the $14,000. Mr. Richards: That’s right. That’s for a 6” line. Mr. Williams: That’s for a 6” line. Mr. Richards: The Utilities Department will participate by laying a 10” line. That total cost is $36,409, which the Utilities Department is responsible for paying $22,360.81. That will give us a 10” line in the event we ever need to extent the line down south further on Highway 1 for future development. Mr. Williams: Okay. The last question, Mr. Mayor, I’m going to be through with this. If we didn’t do a 10” line, if we only did the 6” line for the church -- if it’s not feasible to do that, it don’t make good sense, I understand all that, but if we just did the 6” line that they need, it would only cost $14,000? 33 Mr. Richards: There’s no reason for us to do just a 6” line. Mr. Williams: I understand, Mr. Richards. I’m just trying to get some figures clear. It wouldn’t be right to do that. All I’m saying is the church is paying for a 6” line. Mr. Mayor: But they’re getting a 10” line. Mr. Williams: No, no, no, no. The City’s going to get a 10” line. The church is going to have the use of it. And my problem is they going to be paying for a 6” line and getting a 10” and all they need is a 6”. But the city’s not putting their part in the $14,000 from what I see. I guess -- we won’t worry about it. Mr. Mayor, I’m through. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Kolb, the church’s participation will be capped at that $14,000, whatever it is, so if there is a change order and overrun, it wouldn’t affect the church’s participation; the city would absorb that, is that correct? Mr. Kolb: That is correct. Mr. Williams: I think maybe Mr. Mayor Pro Tem -- somebody else go to catch this. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mays? Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor, I was pretty much -- if this was worked out and everybody is in agreement, this about [inaudible] go ahead and vote for it, and I may need some help, particularly from two old city guys, Steve and Lee, on this particular issue here. But let’s back up a second. If I’m hearing correctly in terms of the incentive to do something that will enhance our system possibly for the future and this is not a precedent- making deal, we’ve done things like this historically before, but I think we ought to be real clear and honest about it. We’re not just really to a point of what the church needs. We’re not really saving the church anything. I think we need to be clear about that. It may be a 10” line on there to a point where if maybe they did some [inaudible] expenses about what’s different there, but really we’re benefiting from it, and what’s been done somewhat in the past, and correct me if I’m wrong, even to the point of where we’ve say maybe, where a person or a entity may have bought materials, we did labor and those type of participations, or if it was necessary, for instance, whether it be a sewer line or whether it be a water line, where the city has enriched its own usage to do something, then there has been somewhat of a sharing to that one individual who is basically isolated. What I see in this, and I probably would vote for it cause it seems as though it’s the only way they’re going to be able to get done what they need to get done, but I think in terms of clarity, it seems as though we are basically moving along and filling a gap because the church happens to be there, and them taking part of more than a third of what’s going to be done on a 10” deal but actually paying 100% -- Mr. Williams: For a 6”. 34 Mr. Mays: -- for a pipe and whole. You know, I just think it ought to be clear. And I’m just -- [inaudible], Steve, where we control in the old city the majority of the water and the lines where we did balanced participation or if it enhanced growth to an area and we were going to be able to get people to tie on for the future, where we maybe ran a line through a particular entity’s property, they did pay, they absorbed some of the cost in it, but in this case for what they need, they are paying the 100% basically for that. You know, they could just as well very much say if it’s going to cost hem $14,000 to get the 10” or the 6”, you know, if they came back and said just give us the 6”, we’re going to pay 100% of it anyway. So I don’t think we ought to [inaudible] anybody about thinking maybe they’re getting away with something. Mr. Williams: Right. Mr. Mays: [inaudible] participation that we’re giving something here. I think it ought to be clear to say they’re paying 100% of what they’re getting, cause that pipe is down in the hole, but what’s going to go that new line, they going to basically use what they need to be able to be compensated for out of that line, and if we going to enhance our system of what we do in that area, then I think we either ought to participate to a greater degree or we ought to state that they’re paying 100%. Mr. Mayor: The church has agreed to this; is that correct, Mr. Kolb? Mr. Kolb: That’s correct. The concept is when we’re approached by anyone who wants water services that are not present, then we will ask them to pay exactly for what they need, and if we want to improve the system or we’re doing it for future expansion, then we will pay the balance. Mr. Williams: Mr. Kolb. Mr. Mayor, may I? Mr. Mayor: Just a minute. Mr. Brigham wanted to speak. Mr. Williams: Okay. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Henry Brigham and then we’ll come back around. Mr. Henry, go ahead. Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Williams has taken the lead on this. It’s in my District. I was not available when they started getting this started, and I thank him for negotiating it down to this point. But I think that we ought to make a decision so we won’t continue to hold the church up in what they’re trying to do. And then we can talk to Mr. Brian , but I think we ought to approve it so that they can Richards and [inaudible] point continue to go on and do the improvements for the church. And that is my motion. Mr. Mayor: Approve then? All right. Mr. Beard: Second. 35 Mr. Mayor: We have a second. Mr. Williams? Mr. Williams: Okay. And I’m in agreement. I’m going to vote for it. I just think the church should not have to pay the 100% of what they asking for, and the city’s saying it’s a 10” line and we changing the size. But there are two other prominent business that’s going to be benefit from this same line that they going to stop it at the church. And when they add to it, when Mr. Brian continue on out, we going to carry this water line that we desperately need, we need it anyway, down there, but the church going to foot the bill not only for the church but for anybody else that going to be using it, and I think that cost is really too much for them to have to pay that amount, and they agreed because that’s less than what they had to initially deal with in the beginning, and if they don’t know, if they are not represented, I mean if it’s less than what that original amount was, and they got to have it, then there’s no way around it. But I think we as a governing body should not sit here and act like well, it’s fine. I think we need to bring those points out. I’m going to vote for it, Mr. Mayor. Mr. H. Brigham: [inaudible] and then come back to our departments and our department heads to see what they can do to [inaudible]. Mr. Williams: Is that in your motion that we can come back? Is that in your motion? Mr. H. Brigham: I will. Mr. Williams: Okay. You put that in your motion, okay. Mr. H. Brigham: [inaudible]. Mr. Williams: Okay, if that’s in your motion, Mr. Brigham, I got not problem, but I think we need to come back. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Bridges, did you have something you wanted to say? Mr. Bridges: No, I wanted to second the motion, the original motion. Mr. Mayor: We have a motion on the floor to approve. Is there any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please vote aye. Mr. Williams: Was that Mr. Brigham’s original -- I don’t know what motion was on the floor. Is that Mr. Brigham’s original motion? Mr. Kolb: That’s right. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Brigham voted for it. 36 Mr. Williams: Yeah, but is that his original motion? Mr. Mayor: Must have been a good one. Motion carries 10-0. Mr. Mayor: That takes us to item number 56, Madame Clerk. Clerk: 56. Motion to approve an Ordinance to amend County code section 2-2-32(e)(iii) so as to provide for use of the Hotel and Motel Tax; to provide an effective date; to repeal conflicting Ordinances; and for other purposes. (Second reading – approved by the Commission May 15, 2001) Mr. Mayor: Mr. Henry Brigham? Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I’d like to move that we add $100,000 to this and let it be donated -- maybe that’s not the right word -- transferred to the Delta House and Association, however they have it listed, and I put that in the form of a motion and that we approve this. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Are you specifying a source? Mr. Beard: The Laney-Walker Museum. Mr. H. Brigham: [inaudible] Mr. Mayor: Where that’s coming from? Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Keven Mack’s office. Mr. Mayor: HND. Okay. Mr. Williams: And where is that going, Mr. Brigham? Is that the Laney-Walker Museum, you say? Mr. H. Brigham: The Laney-Walker Museum. Mr. Colclough: I’ll second it. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Wall wants to clarify something for us. Mr. Bridges: Do we need a five-minute recess, Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: I see some heads nodding. We’ll declare a five minute recess. 37 [RECESS] Mr. Mayor: The Chair recognizes Mr. Henry Brigham, who is going to make a substitute motion. Mr. Kuhlke: No, I think I’m going to make it. Mr. Mayor: The Chair will recognize Mr. Kuhlke. Mr. Kuhlke: I believe that’s right. Mr. Brigham made the original motion. Mr. Mayor: All right. Mr. Kuhlke: Mr. Mayor, I’d like to make a motion that we approve Item 56, second reading. Mr. Bridges: Second it. Mr. Mayor: Motion and second. Any discussion? All in favor of the motion then, please vote aye. Motion carries 10-0. Mr. Mayor: By my count, that takes us over to item number 59. Is that correct, Madame Clerk? Clerk: 51? Mr. Mayor: 59. Clerk: ENGINEERING SERVICES: 59. Motion to approve Agreement between Southeastern Natural Sciences Academy Land Trust, Inc. and Augusta, Georgia for the furtherance of the Greenspace Program for an initial annual fee of $55,000.00, payable monthly. (No Recommendation Engineering Services Committee May 29, 2001) Mr. Kuhlke: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Additional annual fee. Clerk: Yes. 38 Mr. Mayor: Mr. Kuhlke? Mr. Kuhlke: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve this contract and that the funding for this service for this year be taken out of the General Fund Contingency pro-rated for the year. Mr. Bridges: Second it. Mr. Mayor: Discussion? Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Mr. Cheek? Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, just kind of an amendment if the maker will accept it, that we would establish a transitional period of the next two to three years to where we work our personnel into running this green space program. Mr. Mayor: Is there any objection to amending the motion? Mr. Kuhlke: I’d rather not do that since this is an annual -- the way I read it, Mr. Wall, this is an annual contract, renewable or cancelable by either party with 60 days’ notice, so I see no real need in amending that, Andy, cause we can do that at any anniversary date. Mr. Cheek: Well, the only thing about it is cutting it off at a date does not allow a good, smooth transitional period to occur if you have an agreement, a partnership, and that’s what I’m concerned with bringing if we should decide to terminate the contract, having someone brought up to speed without having to start over from scratch. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Beard and then Mr. Bridges. Mr. Beard: I can understand what Commissioner Cheek is saying, but I think will work for our program, and we can go on an engage as it is, and if anything needs to be done, we can do that at the termination -- it is an annual thing and we can support -- I can support it. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Bridges? Mr. Bridges: Mr. Mayor, I think Andy has a good idea in regards to bringing this in-house eventually. I feel like it’s the proper thing to do now -- is to hire this firm to do this. They have a lot of volunteers also that will help assist them that will not cost us anything. But I think basically we can perform that same function, Andy, just by instructing the Administrator that that’s pretty much the consensus of the Commission to move in that direction in the future and to see if he can see that that’s done. 39 Mr. Mayor: Further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please vote aye. Motion carries 10-0. Clerk: OVERSITE COMMITTEE – JUDICIAL CENTER: 60. Motion to authorize the Oversight Committee to expend funds for appropriate property appraisals, environmental studies; and to authorize the committee to enter into negotiations with the Coliseum Authority for a two- acre parcel of Coliseum Authority property. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Kuhlke, you’re the Chairman. Mr. Kuhlke: Mr. Mayor, the Oversight Committee met last week, and what we are recommending to you -- we need to begin to get a handle on what that particular site is going to cost us. We also -- part of the approach to acquire that property is working with the Coliseum Authority to exchange two acres of their parking lot for roughly two acres that they own in the 600 block of Greene Street. To take care of the lost parking for the Coliseum Authority, we also need to look at the site where the R&R Trucking is and abandon the road that goes around that site. By doing that, we pick up two-and-a-half acres, and so the net loss in parking for the Coliseum Authority would only be 16 spaces. In addition, we need to go ahead and do some environmental studies on the R&R site and also the old bus station. So we don’t -- I talked with the chief appraiser. We’re probably looking in the range of $25,000-30,000 for appraisal work, and I’m not exactly sure about the environmental work. But for us to move forward and to come back to this Commission with an accurate idea of what it’s going to cost us to acquire that property, I’d like to make a there’s some preliminary work that needs to be done. So we’d like -- motion that we accept the recommendation of the Oversight Committee to allow us to move forward and to expend the funds that we need to to get to that point. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Shepard, is your hand up? Mr. Shepard: It is, and I’ll second the motion, but I had a question about the scope of the motion, Bill. Mr. Kuhlke: About the scope? Mr. Shepard: Yes. Well, don’t -- can I ask a question, Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Certainly. Mr. Shepard: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Bill, don’t we need to have authority from this body granted that we have three-way negotiations? The materials only say the Coliseum Authority, but I think the Trustees or the governing authority of the First Presbyterian Church needs to be involved, because we’re going to take part f the church 40 land, and the church is going to take part of the Coliseum land, then we’re going to restore parking, I think, through our ability to acquire property, so isn’t it a three-way deal? Mr. Kuhlke: It is a three-way deal. I guess we felt like that at this point, that if we don’t have the two acres to swap initially that we need to work with the Coliseum Authority first and then from that point you need to go to the property owners, because there are more property owners than just First Presbyterian. But you’re correct. But we’ve got a couple of hurdles to get over first, I think. Mr. Shepard: But if you want to limit it to just dealing with the Coliseum Authority, I think that’s fine, but the other major player here is the First Presbyterian Church. Mr. Kuhlke: They are. Mr. Kuhlke: And I’d like to include them so we could go ahead and proceed without having to come back to this body. Mr. Shepard: That was my point exactly. So you’ll amend the motion? Mr. Kuhlke: Yes, I would like to. Mr. Mayor: Is there any objection to amending the motion to include the First Presbyterian Church governing board? Okay. Mr. Kuhlke: And how about not just First Presbyterian, but how about the other property owners within that area? Mr. Mayor: Any objection? Okay. Continue on with the debate. Commissioner Williams and then Commissioner Cheek. Mr. Williams: Mr. Mayor, I’m in support of the Oversight Committee and what Bill has just said about the amount of money to -- the appraiser and that kind of thing kind of rings a bell with me. I need some kind of direction as to what limits? If we don’t say now as of how much money we going to be able to spend on this research we going do, I mean it can run pretty expensive. Shouldn’t we not have some type of -- I guess cap is a good word -- amount, Bill, that we looking at that we going to do this inquiry and stuff on? We going to have any idea about the entity other than the appraisal, right? Mr. Kuhlke: Well, the two areas that we would spend money on is the appraisal and the environmental assessment, so we’re looking at between $25,000-30,000 on the appraisals, and I would say the Phase I environment is probably -- Jim, you got any idea? Maybe $10,000 or something like that? 41 Mr. Wall: I really -- I wouldn’t think that it would be in excess of that. Ideally, what I’ll try to do is get Dr. [inaudible] to do an initial assessment, and then depending upon his findings and recommendations we would then perhaps to employ someone else outside to do the environmental study. Mr. Williams: Well, I’m still not hearing an amount here. I still need to know. You talking about $35,000, we need to say, I think that that’s what we going to work in the realm of and if it’s going to be addition to that. Mr. Kuhlke: Why not give us the authority to go up to $50,000? Mr. Williams: Okay. I mean I just think we need an amount. We need to know before we just -- Mr. Kuhlke: Let’s cap it at $50,000. Mr. Mayor: Any objection to capping it at $50,000? Are you getting all these amendments, Madame Clerk? Clerk: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor: Okay. Mr. Cheek? Mr. Cheek: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I support the recommendations of the Committee. I guess I’m going to put a what-if in this. Mr. Chairman, are we looking at say we find some type of underground contamination or something that makes this site economically unfeasible for use, do we have a fall-back plan or a site B in mind that we would go to? Mr. Kuhlke: Mr. Wall? Mr. Wall: I guess the concern perhaps would be that there was some property that we could not exchange with the Coliseum Authority, and I have had some other discussions on some other properties that we talked about. Now whether or not they’re suitable for the Coliseum Authority’s use or not, I don’t know. Insofar as the one property that’s within the Greene Street block, there has been a site assessment already done several years ago. I don’t have that information, although I‘ve been promised it several times. But I don’t think that it is going to be an impediment to the use that we’re intending to utilize it for. Mr. Cheek: I guess my other concern is that it seems like every time we dig in the city of Augusta we find old underground storage tanks, and I know we had some gas stations and a bus station there, and there may be some cleaning solvents or something that’s underground that we don’t know about, and those clean-up costs are pretty steep. That was why I had my question about that. 42 Mr. Wall: The area where the dry cleaners are I think is going to be a parking lot, so I don’t think that’s going to impact, but those are the types of things we need to look at. Exactly. Mr. Cheek: If we discovered TCE in the ground and it’s our property, we have to clean it up. We can’t just cover it up. That’s pretty steep. Mr. Mayor: Any further discussion? Mr. Jerry Brigham? Mr. J. Brigham: Mr. Mayor or Mr. Kuhlke, are we going to get around to doing historic preservation summary or are we [inaudible] at this time? Mr. Kuhlke: I have asked Ross Snellings to look at the historical buildings over there and to see what alternatives we may have, and he’s going to be at our next committee meeting to give us a report back. And we’re going to look at whether or not we can utilize those buildings, whether we can move them, or whether we can tear them down. So he’ll be bringing that report back to us. Mr. J. Brigham: Since we’re amending your authorization, do we need to include you to authorize that money for [inaudible] if necessary? Mr. Kuhlke: Not at this point. Mr. Mayor: Any further discussion? Gentlemen, we have a motion that’s been amended a couple of times on the floor. Does anybody need the motion restated? Mr. Bridges: Yes, sir, please. Mr. Mayor: Madame Clerk, can you restate it please? Clerk: The motion was to authorize the expenditure of funds for appropriate property appraisal, environmental studies, with a cap of $50,000, and to authorize the Committee to enter into negotiations with the Coliseum Authority, the First Presbyterian Church, and other property owners regarding the two-acres exchange/purchase parcel of the Coliseum Authority property. Mr. Kuhlke: No, just the other property owners. Clerk: Just the other property owners? Okay. Mr. Mayor: Gentlemen, we’ll call the question on the motion. All in favor, please vote aye. Motion carries 10-0. Mr. Mayor: Next item. 43 Clerk: PETITIONS & COMMUNICATIONS: 61. Select voting delegate for the National Association of County Commissioners th Organization’s ( NACO) 66 Annual Conference, July 13-17 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Clerk: As of now, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, we have three members of the Commission considering attending this event, Commissioner Jerry Brigham, Commissioner Steve Shepard, and Commissioner Marion Williams, and Commissioner Jerry Brigham sits on the Association of County Commissioners board. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mayor Pro Tem? Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor, since he represents us as a loyal member of ACCG’s board, I’m going to ask that the voting assignment go to Mr. Jerry Brigham. Mr. Colclough: Second. Mr. Mayor: Motion and second. Discussion? Is there any objection? None heard. So the election will be by unanimous consent. Motion carried by unanimous consent. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Wall, do you have -- 62. OTHER BUSINESS 63. LEGAL MEETING ?? Discuss litigation matters ?? Discuss real estate Mr. Wall: I’d request a legal meeting to discuss litigation matters, real estate, and would also like to add a personnel matter. Mr. Mayor: Is that the Administrator’s personnel matter? Mr. Wall: It is. Mr. Colclough: I so move. Mr. Mays: Second. Mr. Mayor: We have a motion and second. Any objection? We go into our legal meeting. 44 Motion carries 10-0. [LEGAL METING] 65. Motion to approve authorization for the Mayor to execute affidavit of compliance with Georgia's Open Meetings Act. Mr. Mayor: The Chair will entertain a motion for the Chairman to sign the affidavit. Mr. Bridges: I so move. Mr. Beard: Second. Mr. Mayor: Any objection? I’ll execute the affidavit. Mr. Shepard out. Motion carries 9-0. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Wall, we had one thing on the agenda already. We need to go ahead and deal with that; right? 64. Approve settlement of pending litigation. Mr. Wall: We need a motion to approve settlement of the claim of Dan Cook and Associates by payment of the sum, by Augusta of the sum of $9,000.00 and the sum of $9,000.00 by the Southeastern Firefighters Association in exchange for a complete release and a division of the remaining merchandise with the Southeastern Firefighters Association and also to approve settlement of the claim of Mustard Seed for the sum of $2,700.00. Mr. Cheek: I so move. Mr. Colclough: Second. Mr. Mayor: Discussion? Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor? Mr. Mayor: Yes, Mr. Mays? Mr. Mays: I’m going to vote for the motion, [inaudible] merchandise also be sold and turn that over to the city in terms of helping settle that? Mr. Wall: Yes, sir. 45 Mr. Mays: Thank you. Mr. Mayor: Any further discussion? All in favor of the motion, please vote aye. Mr. Shepard out. Mr. Bridges and Mr. J. Brigham vote No. Motion carries 7-2. Mr. Mayor: Now we have another legal item to add and approve; is that correct, Mr. Wall? Mr. Wall: Not a legal item. Mr. Mayor: The Chair will recognize Mr. Henry Brigham for purpose of a motion. Mr. H. Brigham: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I would like to move that the $100,000 be moved from HND funds over to the Lucy-Walker -- not Laney-Walker, but the Lucy Laney house. Mr. Mayor: Make a motion to add and approve. Mr. Beard: I second that. Mr. J. Brigham: You don’t have unanimous consent. Mr. H. Brigham: What did you say, Mr. Brigham? Mr. J. Brigham: You don’t have unanimous consent. Mr. H. Brigham: Are you going to hold it up, Mr. Brigham? Mr. J. Brigham: Yes, I am. Mr. H. Brigham: Until when? Mr. J. Brigham: Until y’all can put it on the agenda next time. I got some questions I want to ask. Mr. H. Brigham: All right. Could you ask any of them, Mr. Brigham? Mr. J. Brigham: My concern is we’re shifting UDAG funds. I thought UDAG funds had to be used for redevelopment purposes, and I want to know how this is a redevelopment purpose, and I have a real question about that. 46 Mr. Mayor: Mr. Mack, can you address that? Mr. Mack: Yes, sir. UDAG funds can be used for any eligible CDBG activities. Mr. J. Brigham: Any of them? I thought it had to be used twice for developmental purposes when it first came out. Mr. Mack: I think the twice [inaudible], once the monies recycle through the project, the program UDAG twice then they can be used for any purpose. Mr. J. Brigham: I’d like to know that that’s happened and that’s what we’re doing and I’d like to know the [inaudible]. Mr. Mack: Well, the $100,000 is based on the fact that CDBG -- I mean UDAG recaptured funds can be used for any CDBG eligible activity. This is an eligible activity. Mr. J. Brigham: But doesn’t it have to go through the cycle twice? Mr. Mack: No, sir. Mr. J. Brigham: It doesn’t? Mr. Mack: No, sir. The twice name is this. It has to go through the cycle twice and then the local government can use it for anything that it wants to use it for. Mr. J. Brigham: I still will -- Mr. Wall: [inaudible] Mr. J. Brigham: I might feel better about this at the next meeting, but I would really like time to understand this. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Beard? The Chair recognizes Mr. Beard. Mr. Beard: You know, Mr. Mayor, I recognize the fact that any person, any Commissioner has the obligation to do what they have to do to hold things up. I think that Mr. Mack has adequately explained that to the Commissioner who has asked him to explain that, and I just kind of view this as mean-spirited when Commissioners hold things up just for the sake of hold things up. And, you know, we’ve had such a good spirit of giving today and working together today. You know, I would just hate for us to end on this particular note wherein there is no particular reason. The money is there. We have been asked to spend X number of dollars in this community from the last [inaudible], and I really don’t want to get back into this, but you know, we’ve debated this on the last couple of times and we’ve talked about it. We went on and gave the Augusta Museum the money that they asked for because we saw the need of it. We said in good faith that if there was money available, we would give it to the Lucy Laney 47 Museum. The money is available, the money has been found by the Administrator and one of our department heads, and yet still, people are still with the mean spiritedness in saying that this shouldn’t happen and they want to hold it up. Those people out there at the Laney-Walker [sic] Museum need their money and if we have been able to do that, why hold it up? To mean that’s just mean spirited. Mr. Mayor: Thank you. Mr. Williams? Mr. Williams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. J. Brigham: Mr. Mayor. Mr. Williams: I think I got the floor, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor: Mr. Williams. Mr. Williams: Thank you, sir. I was going to try to calm Mr. Beard and let him know it’s not always mean spirits, it’s just mean. But what we going do, if I can make a substitute motion is just -- Mr. Mayor: You can’t make a motion because the item -- we didn’t have unanimous consent to add the item. Mr. Williams: Okay. I make my comments. Mr. Mayor: The Chair is allowing the Commissioners to respond to that and then we’ll move on. Mr. Williams: Okay. I’m just going to make my comment and tell Mr. Beard that we just have to pursue this in another direction and another time. As a government we need to try to look at the citizens of this entire city. We can’t grow one-sided, we’ve got to grow together if we going to grow. It’s like a form of cancer. If you don’t tend to it, it’s going to spread. But I understand what you said and everybody is entitled to their opinion and if that’s the will of the Commission then we’ll just wait until another time. Mr. Mayor: All right. Mr. Cheek? Mr. Cheek: Mr. Mayor, thank you. I hope that at some point in the future there will come a day when we can stop relegating those heroes, those great Americans that come from our city to some lesser status. We have Ty Cobb and James Brown, who we have a continued fight over naming things over, and they are two of the greatest in their field. They’re Augustans and yet we can’t recognize them because it’s one side against the other. The Lucy Laney Museum is a very important landmark. It is something that the whole city can celebrate, that from this city a lady such as her came and lived and contributed to our city. When we can celebrating our successes and stop pointing out our differences and faults, then this city will come together. 48 Mr. Beard: Move to adjourn. Mr. Mayor: Was that a motion to adjourn? Mr. Beard: Yes. Mr. Mayor: Is there a second? Mr. Bridges: Second. Mr. Mayor: Any objection? Mr. Mays: Mr. Mayor? I just didn’t want it to be unanimous that we adjourn. I just want to say this. You know I can -- I understand how procedure things happen. I pull them myself a lot of times. But you know, it ought to end. Cause the only thing I’m going to say now, you know what goes around comes around. And people call folk to add on stuff in an election year when they needy, and the only thing I’m going to say is everybody that has got any favors out of me like that, they better count them and count them well. Because there will be another day and you know, so, we just do it in two weeks. [MEETING ADJOURNED] Lena J. Bonner Clerk of Commission CERTIFICATION: I, Lena J. Bonner, Clerk of Commission, hereby certify that the above is a true and correct copy of the minutes of the Regular Meeting of Augusta Richmond County Commission held on June 5, 2001. Clerk of Commission